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Post by robbie on Sept 1, 2007 12:29:05 GMT
How do people transport/store Temple Dogs. Being "bulky" they do not sit nicely in specific tube fly boxes, and if carried in a compartmented box, they hide/cover one another. Or am I just being fussy?
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Post by rpsalmon on Sept 1, 2007 14:47:45 GMT
I just use a plastic box with compartments and let them move around but I saw an angler's box that seemed to be ideal.
He took some old trebles of dodgy origin and cut one hook off to leave two hooks, these hooks were placed in the tube fly extensions as if he was going to fish them. He then put the temple dogs in a ethafoamed (in raised lines like the old Leeda trout boxes-so that hackles were not squashed) plastic box using the dodgy hooks to anchor them in place. They don't move unless taken out and there is plenty of space for the wings.
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Post by robbie on Sept 1, 2007 14:55:24 GMT
Thanks RPS,
The raised foam you describe, I think is available from Wheatly as replacements. These are sticky backed and I suppose could be put into any make of box (trim to fit) I would think the box needs to be sufficiently deep. I will visit Norris this week and experiment. Will let you know.
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Post by robbie on Sept 1, 2007 15:01:36 GMT
Have just visited the Wheatley Fly Boxes site and replacement faoms of all styles are available under the Accesories section. approx £4 a sheet.
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Post by rpsalmon on Sept 1, 2007 15:10:13 GMT
My local tackle shop gives foam away for free to regular customers. Even when I used to pay for it, I just bought it by the square foot from Spartan tackle because it really isn't any bother to cut up with scissors. If I'm not just cutting strip to place inside a box, I will take whatever box I want to line and press it into the foam in order to make an exact impression. I then cut around the inside of that impression and bingo, a perfectly fitting liner!
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Post by castelforte on Sept 1, 2007 15:45:44 GMT
Robbie,
I have a wheatley tube fly box but I only use it for smaller tubes and storing hooks in the foam lid.
For templedogs etc I use a Plano plastic box that is designed for spinners. It measures 9.5" x 4.5" and is a perfect fit in a Simms wading jacket.
it also has 2 cam-lock fasteners so that it does not open when dropped and scatter all your tubes.
A key feature is movable dividers so that create your own compartment size. I have one long compartment for collies and sunrays.
CF
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Post by robbie on Sept 1, 2007 20:19:37 GMT
Hi,
I have used something similar. I think it is me being pedantic. I do find that when T/dog style flies are lain in a box they hide one another and I simply forget what is in the box. If I could see what was being carried it might improve my final selection.
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Post by robbie on Sept 2, 2007 18:54:24 GMT
CF, nice pictures, thank you. Realistically I think I am the problem, carrying too many bl..dy flies! I will try to rationalize my collection and try your boxes again.
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Post by billytheghillie on Sept 2, 2007 19:00:25 GMT
Have you tried the EUMER fly box? it has small spikes for holding flies. Or try b&q,tescos, asda they have cheap storage boxes. www.eumer.com |
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Post by robbie on Sept 2, 2007 19:03:32 GMT
Cheers Billy, will check them out C.F. Nice looking flies ! dont leave them lying around here in Scotland . Some "Professional" types will steal them  |
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Post by flee on Sept 4, 2007 23:42:57 GMT
Nice looking beasties all the same I have collies in my armoury and without a doubt they are possibly the worst flies to store but I have never really tried these due to lack of confidence in them or maybe even just not knowing how to fish them properly could anyone tell me if there is a good time to put one of these dogs on.
ps:- Homebase or any DIY store really has storage boxes of all shapes and sizes.I bought some that you can change the size of compartments to suit whatever I was putting in.
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Post by rpsalmon on Sept 5, 2007 7:27:40 GMT
This may sound sarcastic, but the time to put a Collie Dog on is anytime when there are fish on your beat. Even if you are told there are no fish on your beat and that you may as well go home, I would still give it a go as it has the quality of pulling fish up from nowhere.
Depending on your approach to salmon fishing it is up to you as to how complex your tactics should be with a Collie Dog, but to make it easy I'll say simply cast one across the river and retrieve it quickly. If there are fish in the beat and you have not caught one yet, try fishing even quicker. In clear water at this time of year use a 3 inch wing, if fishing very fast water go up to 4 or 5 inch tops. Expect a hard take so use a mono leader of sufficient strength, say 15Ib.
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Post by robbie on Sept 5, 2007 16:13:12 GMT
CF,
What wing material is that on your Collies. Have you used monkey at all?
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Post by castelforte on Sept 5, 2007 22:31:56 GMT
Robbie,
Have not tried monkey.
The wings are mostly black goat but sometimes put a couple of strands of black bucktail down first to reduce hook tangles although the tubes seem to be a lot less trouble than a collie on a double hook.
Of course the sunrays types have an underwing which is white bucktail.
I have experimented also put white on the underside of the tube to make them more fish like. Also adding reds and blues for herring when I am fishing close to the sea and expecting some fresh ones in.
The wings are laced with silver crinkle and sometimes peacock herl.
CF
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Post by robbie on Sept 6, 2007 7:05:10 GMT
Hi Cf,
Monkey is not marketed as monkey for the sake of being PC. It is called something like Tibetan Lamb or similar when realy it is Colobus monkey I think.
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Post by rpsalmon on Sept 6, 2007 19:27:57 GMT
I read a post somewhere on this site, I think by G Ritchie, stating he uses Yak hair on the larger collies/sunrays. I presume this is slightly stiffer than dog or goat.
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Post by stu47 on Sept 6, 2007 19:42:30 GMT
Colobus monkey needs a CITES cert,apparently when it was legal it was used in coats and rugs,things are not labelled to be pc,tibeten lamb will proberably be just that
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Post by Speyducer on Sept 6, 2007 21:21:30 GMT
Been looking for that type of thing for a while. Will find a local supplier to have a closer look before dipping into the fishing budget.
Mike
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Post by castelforte on Sept 6, 2007 21:24:00 GMT
I read a post somewhere on this site, I think by G Ritchie, stating he uses Yak hair on the larger collies/sunrays. I presume this is slightly stiffer than dog or goat. It is stiffer than goat hair, but is useful for really large Collies or Sunrays. You can get it in lengths up to 10 inches. The extra stiffness is less of an issue with very long wings. I find the conventional collies with goat are OK in the shorter length but I agree the longer ones swim better with stiffer hair. I have not used Yak hair but I have used bucktail strands tied first to reduce tangles and help stiffen the wing. CF |
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Post by robbie on Sept 7, 2007 16:42:20 GMT
Re. Monkey Hair. Thanks for that Stuart. The guy who told me this, did so with a wink. In hindsight I should have realised that he was wrong.
ATB
Robbie
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