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Post by offshore on Aug 10, 2007 6:07:08 GMT
Hello All,
I wonder if anyone can offer me some general advice. I get very little fishing time at the moment so would like to do the best thing!
I have a week or so holiday in the second half of September - I have limited salmon fishing experience. Like most people I have a moderate budget - reasonable prices but a week on the Tweed is not for me!
How would other people plan a weeks fishing at that time of year?
I was thinking about the Spey Grantown association water for a week (which is a good price) but think it may be too late in the season (?)
Sections of the Nith and Annan seem reasonably priced but I dont really know anything about the beats.
Tyne - riverdale hall could be suitable (?)
The Wye and Usk could have great scenery - but again I know nothing about the best beats for that time of year.
Anyway what ever happens it will be better than work - but it would be nice to increase my chances of success.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Offshore
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Post by castlikeaghille on Aug 10, 2007 9:12:34 GMT
Hello All, I wonder if anyone can offer me some general advice. I get very little fishing time at the moment so would like to do the best thing! I have a week or so holiday in the second half of September - I have limited salmon fishing experience. Like most people I have a moderate budget - reasonable prices but a week on the Tweed is not for me! How would other people plan a weeks fishing at that time of year? I was thinking about the Spey Grantown association water for a week (which is a good price) but think it may be too late in the season (?) Sections of the Nith and Annan seem reasonably priced but I dont really know anything about the beats. Tyne - riverdale hall could be suitable (?) The Wye and Usk could have great scenery - but again I know nothing about the best beats for that time of year. Anyway what ever happens it will be better than work - but it would be nice to increase my chances of success. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Offshore O/S Salmon fishing in the UK is generally unreliable to put it generously. We generally take weeks becuase we take the view that over a 5 year period the good and the bad will even out to make it worthwhile. Banking on one week as a one off is hard, but not impossible. It depends what you want out of your week, but here are a few things you might think of that are relevant and where you might find them: Is there usually a run of fresh fish into the part of the river I am fishing? Both the Dee and Spey have a significant autumn run, but neither run generally goes more than a 1/3 of the way up the river in any number. So yes there will be fish at Grantown (or above Banchory on the Dee) but you are unlikely to see much that is fresh. However, if that is not an issue for you, both the middle and upper Spey and Dee will offer you classic fly water and a good chance of catching a fish at a reasonable price. The Lower Spey at that time of year is extremely difficult to get on and has a price tag that reflects the demand. However, the Lower Dee from Park (which itself would be a very good bet) down has a lot of less fashionable beats that actually come into their own in September and are very reasonably priced. There are a number of posters on here who could give you guidance and I hope they see this and post. The second question is water. I could name you a shed load of Scottish Rivers that will probably give you great sport at that time of year at modest cost IF (excuse emphasis) you have water. The Solway Rivers, the North/South Esks, Deveron, Don, then there are all the rivers and systems in the Highlands and Island. So if you are planning any of these then you need to have other fishing or activities in reserve in case the long promised Indian summer arrives! The two rivers that will have enough water to fish almost regardless will be the Ness and (on your budget?) the Middle Tay. However, these are big old streams. If you are relatively new to the sport and fly fishing while finding your way with casting (only a supposition) they are somewhat daunting. However, you have the option to spin the Tay and, if memory serves me correctly some beats of the Ness. I don't know much about the Ness these days, but the middle Tay is having a bit of a torrid time so far this season. However, things may change. Dennis at Kercock, Simon and Ian at Dunkeld and Jock at Newtyle are all excellent guides you could learn a lot about salmon fishing from. For what it is worth we changed our regular September fishing this year. So we had to go through a similar thought process. This is what 10 of us are doing the following week to yours and why. We are going for a week on the Thurso: 1) It is realistically priced 2) It usually has plenty of fish in at that time of year and increasingly more fresh ones 3) It is a river with diversity, but of a size that most people should be able to handle (i.e. cover sufficiently), and much of the river (with some notable exceptions) is relatively straight forward to read. 4) If we do have an Indian Summer then we'll just take the rough with the smooth. There is still good trout and sea fishing. Additionally for the all round sportsman there is deer stalking (red and roe), rough shooting and flighting I hope you find something right for you. Good luck CLaG |
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Post by greenalert on Aug 11, 2007 17:37:55 GMT
Hi CLaG Me & a mate are thinking of fishing Abernethy Association Water in Mid September for a week, accommodation is booked in Boat of Garten, but not the weeks ticket yet, do you think there will be fish then, not worried if fresh or coloured, will be all C & R if any caught  Thanks |
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Post by williegunn on Aug 11, 2007 17:44:47 GMT
Hi CLaG Me & a mate are thinking of fishing Abernethy Association Water in Mid September for a week, accommodation is booked in Boat of Garten, but not the weeks I would not bother the salmon will have sex on their minds rather than food. |
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Post by castlikeaghille on Aug 11, 2007 17:50:16 GMT
Hi CLaG Me & a mate are thinking of fishing Abernethy Association Water in Mid September for a week, accommodation is booked in Boat of Garten, but not the weeks ticket yet, do you think there will be fish then, not worried if fresh or coloured, will be all C & R if any caught Thanks This is the Emperor's back yard so I suggest he answers. For what it is worth we used to don our Tweed, reach for our cane rods and silk lines and occassionally fish the last couple of days just upstream at Kinchurdy, and, especially if there was water, you'd get plenty of 'sport'. As for this season, it's so all over the place who knows  - have a good trip whatever you do.  CLaG |
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Post by greenalert on Aug 11, 2007 17:55:51 GMT
Hi CLaG Me & a mate are thinking of fishing Abernethy Association Water in Mid September for a week, accommodation is booked in Boat of Garten, but not the weeks I would not bother the salmon will have sex on their minds rather than food. Hi Willie Would you have any other suggestions for up that way, seeing we will be staying there for a week Thanks |
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Post by greenalert on Aug 11, 2007 17:57:13 GMT
Hi CLaG Me & a mate are thinking of fishing Abernethy Association Water in Mid September for a week, accommodation is booked in Boat of Garten, but not the weeks ticket yet, do you think there will be fish then, not worried if fresh or coloured, will be all C & R if any caught Thanks This is the Emperor's back yard so I suggest he answers. For what it is worth we used to don our Tweed, reach for our cane rods and silk lines and occassionally fish the last couple of days just upstream at Kinchurdy, and, especially if there was water, you'd get plenty of 'sport'. As for this season, it's so all over the place who knows - have a good trip whatever you do. CLaG Cheers CLaG Thanks for that |
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Post by woodcockandsewin on Aug 12, 2007 20:59:37 GMT
Offshore,
get in touch with the Wye and Usk Foundation. They are the experts on their patch. There are lots of beats available within easy reach of each other, at a sensible price, and a wash off policy.
W&S
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CLaG