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Post by fishtail on Dec 14, 2006 10:05:19 GMT
Are Salmon polyleaders available with a preformed loop at both ends or with braided cores so you can make your own connecting loops?
I am looking for a range of easy to use 15 foot intermediate and sinking leaders.
My only experience has been with the Trout polyleaders which have a nice preformed loop at one end and a length of exposed mono at the other. This lasts for a season then I need to attach a braided loop which always seems a bit clumpy.
I have seen previous threads on forming neat loops in braided line cores but what do you do if the core is mono?
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Post by rennie on Dec 14, 2006 17:36:33 GMT
Fishtail,if you want looped poly-tips go for the Michael Evans ones,they are looped both ends but are parallel with no taper better for use with sinking lines really.For poly-tips better suited to presentation with a floater go for the Airflo ones,these are tapered and looped only on the thicker end,the thinner end terminates in the heavy nylon core.What you need for the Airflo poly-tips are some silvered rings,tie them onto the nylon core nice and neatly as close to the polymer as you can then apply a touch of waterproof super glue on the knot only,then knot the leader of your choice to the silvered ring.This way they will last ages, down side is both leaders are only 10ft long.Have been led to believe that Fenwick leaders come in 12ft lengths but don't think you get the range of sinking rates that you do with Airflo.Been using Airflo poly-tips like this for several years with no problems at all.
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Post by speycaster on Dec 14, 2006 22:03:47 GMT
the airflow polytips are fine you can get them in seven densities and a wallet£30
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Post by fishtail on Dec 15, 2006 11:47:00 GMT
Thanks all for the advise and tips.
I think I will give those heavy duty Airflo leaders a try first with a loop to loop connection or some silvered rings.
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Post by ibm59 on Mar 14, 2007 17:45:21 GMT
Are Salmon polyleaders available with a preformed loop at both ends or with braided cores so you can make your own connecting loops? I am looking for a range of easy to use 15 foot intermediate and sinking leaders. My only experience has been with the Trout polyleaders which have a nice preformed loop at one end and a length of exposed mono at the other. This lasts for a season then I need to attach a braided loop which always seems a bit clumpy. I have seen previous threads on forming neat loops in braided line cores but what do you do if the core is mono? Instead of expensive poly leaders you could consider buying mill end double tapers at a fiver or so and cutting tips from them at whatever length you want. These can then be joined loop to loop to your mainline with a wee stripped and whipped loop at the tippet end. Two tips of your required length for a fiver and a wee bit of time. DT7 works well with 9/10 lines and DT8/9 with 10 and above lines. |
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Post by fishtail on Mar 15, 2007 8:40:47 GMT
Thanks for the tip ibm59, no pun intended.
I have bought a couple of Airflo polyleaders now but I will set up a couple of longer tips as an experiment from my old trout lines as you suggest.
I always wondered what to do with my old DT lines!
Steve.
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Post by ibm59 on Mar 15, 2007 11:04:36 GMT
Thanks for the tip ibm59, no pun intended. I have bought a couple of Airflo polyleaders now but I will set up a couple of longer tips as an experiment from my old trout lines as you suggest. I always wondered what to do with my old DT lines! Steve. Way to go. Just remember that you can always shorten the lengths of double taper from the fine end if you have any probs with turnover. I've been using this method for a couple of years now and as long as you keep things to a reasonable length ,10/12ft , it works well. I never did trust the welded type of loop on the shop bought tips. |
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Post by waddington on Mar 31, 2007 2:34:29 GMT
Hello All
I am a new member though I must confess to lurking for a while! Just wondering if anyone can advise me as to whether the Airflo Salmon polyleaders are suitable for sea trout and light salmon fishing with a single handed 8wt outfit. The reason I ask is I am worried about the light core of the trout polyleaders weakening over time.
My congratulations to all of you on a very informative forum!
Best Wishes
Waddington
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Post by salar76 on Mar 31, 2007 15:33:41 GMT
Hello All I am a new member though I must confess to lurking for a while! Just wondering if anyone can advise me as to whether the Airflo Salmon polyleaders are suitable for sea trout and light salmon fishing with a single handed 8wt outfit. The reason I ask is I am worried about the light core of the trout polyleaders weakening over time. My congratulations to all of you on a very informative forum! Best Wishes Waddington That's what I use for night fishing on the Tywi. The heavy ones are a pain to cast with, although sometime necessary. I tend to stick with the 5' ones too for night fishing; again the 10' heavy ones are hard work. |
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Post by waddington on Mar 31, 2007 16:27:49 GMT
Thanks for the reply Salar. I fish the Tywi at Golden Grove. I was thinking of giving these polyleaders a go rather than having the bother of changing to an intermediate to get the fly that touch deeper. I always find changing lines such a pain especially at night! From your experience it seems like a selection of the 5ft polyleaders is the way to go.
Waddington
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Post by salar76 on Mar 31, 2007 18:59:49 GMT
Waddington - Which beat on Golden Grove do you fish on? I was on bt2 for a year, but found I just wasn't able to use it enough to get value from it. Nice water though.
Last season I started taking a second 10' rod out more and moved away from the polyleaders a bit. That let me use a fast intermediate (Airflo 40 plus - perfect for the Tywi) or a wet II on one, and a floater on the other. With the floater I'd start off with a polytip early on, and then a surface lure (usually the Jambo!) later. To be honest, I had more luck in previous seasons when I just used the polyleaders, even in the dead of night with hard frosts in May - the Tywi wasn't kind to me last year.
Season starts down there tomorrow, but sadly I won't be able to make it down for at least a few weeks yet. Gutted!
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Post by waddington on Mar 31, 2007 19:23:37 GMT
Thanks for the advice Salar. I will be fishing beat 3 with my brother again this year. This will be our 4th or 5th year on this beat. Last year was a complete nightmare for us results wise but we still thoroughly enjoyed our visits. The one highlight for me last year was a beautiful spring salmon last May which I suppose weighed approx 11lb. I never seem to have much luck with the early sewin but have managed a few spring salmon in the last few years. From what I saw last season it seemed to be very much a 50/50 split between sewin and salmon in the early season. Lets hope for a good season and it would be lovely to meet you on Cilsan bridge later in the year!
Best Wishes
Phil
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Post by salar76 on Mar 31, 2007 20:11:21 GMT
I usually eat my fish supper from Llandeilo on Cilsane Bridge before heading to the river, so hopefully I'll see you there!
Nice looking beat, Ro Fawr. I stayed at the farm last year whilst the game fair was on and looked at a few of the pools - looked good. Would agree about the spring salmon vs spring sewin split for the early season - it was good to see a decent number of salmon coming off last year. I had a couple of decent fish on last April but only landed a blueback kelt.
Tight lines for the season ahead - let us know how you do!
Cheers
Lawrence
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