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Post by Griais on Jan 30, 2006 12:28:02 GMT
Hi folks, I need some help in deciding upon a suitable 9 weight line for my DH Daiwa Whisker 12footer. I'll be using the rod to mainly fish the likes of the Earn or Teith in the spring so am I looking at a fast sink or slow sink or a sink tip? Is an intermediate better? Any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated as there's such an array of lines and I'd hate to get it wrong  Cheers Al |
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Post by Griais on Jan 30, 2006 13:02:04 GMT
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Post by Griais on Jan 30, 2006 13:31:11 GMT
Great stuff Graham. You should start up a paid consultancy! I'll go for one of the three you mentioned earlier - probably the Loop Quatro. I'm more used to loch fishing for salmon on the isles using a 10ft trout rod and a 6 weight flyline. It's been a while since I used a DH rod.  Thanks again for your swift and helpful response. |
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Post by ceilidh on Feb 2, 2006 16:47:43 GMT
Griais,
I have the same rod as you and agree with Graham's advice. I hav'nt tried the loop quattro but I do use a Rio midspey multi tip (8/9) which works well enough but is not perfect. I also use a Michael Evans floater with a 10' fast sink polyleader, this is a much cheaper solution and works just as well. Although this model of Daiwa is a good little rod it may be just a touch slow for the shooting head type of line, most of which were developed for fairly fast actioned rods and the'underhand' style of casting.
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Post by Griais on Feb 2, 2006 23:32:19 GMT
Thanks for the welcome advice Ceilidh. Looking forward to using my rod in earnest.
I also have a floating Airflo Delta Spey Traditional line but as yet I haven't tried it with the rod. Am I right in saying this line has a long head?
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Post by ceilidh on Feb 3, 2006 1:00:31 GMT
Grais,
I hope that Graham will reply to your last post, he is far more knowledgeable than I am. However, I have a suspicion that you may be asking a wee bit too much of any 12' rod if you want to use it for serious sinking line, heavy fly spring or back end fishing, certainly if more than fairly short casts are necessary. If you are changing from a single hander to a double, you might well find it easier to go straight to a 14' or 15' rod, but preferably find a dealer who will let you try various options first. I am very happy with my 12' Daiwa for summer use on a medium sized river, or even on the Tweed in low water conditions, but you will find that there are times when a longer rod, so far from being more demanding, will actually require less effort!
As always, of course, it's a matter of horses for courses, how much of your fishing will be in the beginning or end of the season and how much in mid season, how deep are the pools and how fast is the current on most of your water? It is for this reason that I like to have at least one multi- tip line, with differing density tips. Like all compromises, it is not the perfect solution in any situation, but it will certainly increase your chances of success.
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Post by Fruin on Feb 3, 2006 9:38:00 GMT
Griais,
I would agree that for spring fishing on the Teith you should probably be thinking more in terms of a 15' rod. When I first started fishing with a double handed rod, I had access to a good beat on the Teith and started with a 12" Daiwa C98.
It's not a small river when in spate and you will probably find it difficult to cover with the smaller rod. You may find that to cover the lies, you end up casting to square for the conditions.
However, if you do decide that you want to use the twelve foot rod, and it has been a while since you used the double handed rod, then I would suggest a shotrter belly spey line. You are correct, the Delta Spey Traditional has a longer head. The normal Airflo Delta Spey(can't remember the name, but it's the minty green one) is a good line for shorter rods.
The shorter belly lines have another advantage on the Teith; a lot of the river has limited back cast space and the shorter heads don't require such a big D Loop.
Hope this helps.
Tight Lines.
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Post by johnmac on Feb 9, 2006 17:56:49 GMT
Hello all..... i had a question about the 12ft Daiwa Whisker. I've just bought one new from e-bay and was wondering what the DH on Griais' rod stands for? and if its a different model to the one i've just purchased? simply because mine doesnt have the DH part?? have i bought an older model?? Anyway... its a great post and thanls to Graham for putting me on to it! Its a huge help to find out what lines are best with what rods! and will hopefully save me some cash! thanks all..... great site and keep up the good work!
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Post by johnmac on Feb 9, 2006 18:14:16 GMT
hahaha! oops..... im not stupid really!! Mine is also a DH in that case!! thanks for clearing up my stupidity
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Post by Griais on Feb 10, 2006 10:34:01 GMT
Yup John, gotta agree. This post is really worthwhile and a problem shared is a problem halved.
Excellent replies from Graham and Ceilidh. The brotherhood of the angle is alive and fishing!
Incidentally, anyone know much about Clan rods? I have a 15ft Clan rod (Ghillie's Choice) which I got a while ago (a friend recommended it) when I was learning to Spey cast.
I enjoy using it when I get a chance. It feels a lot faster actioned than the 12ft Daiwa.
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Post by Griais on Feb 10, 2006 13:38:38 GMT
I picked it up Graham about six or seven years ago when I was a beginner and still use it whenever I can. I, too, enjoy fishing with it. It's certainly got plenty of backbone.
I've never seen anyone else use one so it's comforting to know I'm not in the minority!
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