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Post by corky on Apr 17, 2006 22:11:35 GMT
Suppose it had to happen sooner or later,my soles have disapeared ,does refelting work ? are there good and bad kits ?
Probably will have to opt for new boots , anybody care to recommend a good make,got the last pair from hooknhack ,rivulet i think they are called ,the boot is ok but the soles only went about 20 wears,
Corky
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Post by kercock on Apr 17, 2006 22:32:34 GMT
20 WEARS,or did you mean 20 years ! seriously ,pack them up and send them back,Tell them you are a casting instuctor,have you ever shown a pal how to cast ? right, you got the job ! Lie a little. Tell them you are on this fantastic website with lots of people waiting with bated breath to see what happens next,BEFORE they buy a pair of those boots whose reputation has always been held in high esteem,lay it on and see what happens. You WILL get a reaction for sure ,if its good,tell everybody. If its bad tell everybody and the Trout and Salmon.. I fact tell the company you were advised by T/S to go this rout. Go for it,you cannot loose. They,all of them hate adverse publicity.
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Post by corky on Apr 18, 2006 22:53:31 GMT
I probably should send them back with a ranting letter attached,
but i should have known better buying a little known brand from the states, and of course i need to get replacements rapid,so its either resole or bin them depends on how much is left over after the clan get into my pay package this week ;D ;D ;D
Corky
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Post by jan on Apr 19, 2006 6:43:07 GMT
Hardly worth the effort is it - hook n hack are a well respected outfit in the usa who woudl probably replace them in a flash - but wading boots are so cheap here now that i expect the postage woudl be higher than the cost of another pair. Might be worth an email to bob - he may send you another pair gratis - US customer service being what it is  . I dont think the threat of t&s will have much effect - they wont have heard of it!  |
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Post by jimthefish on Apr 19, 2006 8:57:36 GMT
I resole my own but it involves a bit of effort and essential to have the right materials. Firstly you have to strip off the old soles completely. I use a painters heat gun to melt the glue which allows you to strip off the old soles. For some this is fine but with others such as Simms they can be stitched on as well & this needs to be hand picked out.
Then you need some commercial felt or you can buy a premade kit. Proper neoprene glue is absolutely essential. Coat both felt & sole with a good coating of glue & smooth out using a tylers combed tool. Allow to dry. To make sure of a perfect bond I add a second coat to both surfaces & allow to dry again.
Place boot on a last ( I had one made at waist height for ease of working) & then reactivate glue on both surfaces with the heat gun. Starting at heel, contact the surfaces & work forwards. Then using a wooden mallet batter f--k out of them to ensure you have removed all air (hence the need for a last). Trim off any overhanging waste with a new stanley blade (watch your fingers).
Another tip is make sure you err on the generous side if you are cutting out soles from a sheet of felt. It is easy to trim off excess but a b----r if you come to the toes & you are short of material.
The other thing is make sure your initial placement is correct cause once that glue grips it aint coming off ! Satisfying when you get it right.
Having read all this, on reflection why dont you put them in the bin or hand them to a professional cobbler !!
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Post by turrifftackle on Apr 19, 2006 12:11:49 GMT
The trouble with re soleing is that when they are put on new the bottom of the sole is flat.
Once you have worn them in they alter to the shape of your foot- so you really need to use clamps to hold them on so as they take a grip.
Aquasure will do a decent job but they will not last forever.
However- you should not have to put up with something that has given up the ghost in 20 outings- the retailer should sort it out for you.
Frank
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Post by jimthefish on Apr 19, 2006 13:57:08 GMT
Never had the problem as you describe it. A used pair of boots has already taken on the curve and shape of your foot & so long as you make sure the felt is a good fit on the sole and you make sure that it is sculpted into the indentation at the heel (where it is a continuous sole and heel) it aint going to move with the glue which I use.
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Post by Fruin on Apr 19, 2006 19:43:58 GMT
I struggled to remove the worn soles from a pair of orvis boots, even with a heat gun and a sander. I then decided to use lots of aquasure, and lots of tape to stick a new set of felt soles on (cut to shape beforehand), over the top of the worn felt.
It worked a treat, and let me put studs in the front of the boot without worrying about puncturing the bottom of the boot.
It didn't look the best but there was no way it was coming unstuck.
I did wrap lots of tape at different angles around the whole boot. This was wrapped tight and probably squeezed all the air out and ensured a firm bond. I left the tape on for about three days until I was sure the glue had fully set.
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Post by corky on Apr 19, 2006 20:58:28 GMT
OK, I've sorted it ,a boot each to fruin and jim , ;D ;D ;D
seriusly though i'll have a go at the refelting,thanks for all the replies
Corky
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. I dont think the threat of t&s will have much effect - they wont have heard of it! 
