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Post by williegunn on Jun 2, 2006 18:35:42 GMT
You could always use a long rod and throw your D loop further out angling the D away from the vertical.
Seems so simpleI have been doing it for years.......tail of the MacIntyre right bank under the horse chestnut tree in the 60s and 70s.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Jun 3, 2006 7:29:05 GMT
Alan Going by the text book it seems impossible, I agree with that however to use your own example - Merryshields. One of the best casters on the lower river in my opinion is Mr Bonner who is/was using a Airflow Traditional Spey which I believe is a long bellied line. I have yet to see Brian in the trees untangling his line and he barely gets his feet wet. I regularly use the 75ft Carron in high fishing of the bank/very limited space situations and don't have a problem. Infact its easier to cast the longer bellied lines from a high bank position than it is standing upto your jules in the water IMO. The 180deg principal is a load of boolocks as a certain amount of angle change on the forward cast is possible provided you anchor the line in the correct place. Perhaps its not text book swing and cast stuff but who lives there lives by the book? As an all round fishing line for many rivers the 65ft ish heads are hard to beat, however if you spend all your time on the big fast flowing rivers where hand lining is not normally required then the longer head lines really come into there own. Its not shooting line thats the problem its stripping yards of the thing back in before the next cast which gets on the nerves. The only place where its a struggle to use the longer bellied lines in my opinion is when fishing under over hanging trees which prevent a high lift of the rod in the initial stages of the cast. Whats happening on the Tweed ?
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Post by storlaks on Jun 3, 2006 9:00:53 GMT
If square casts are required, how do you manage this with the long head from the bank?
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Post by Tyne Angler on Jun 3, 2006 10:05:55 GMT
If square casts are required, how do you manage this with the long head from the bank? If you need to cast square off a restricted bank - which is not very often on a fast flowing big river, (which is where you would be using a long bellied line) you can always strip and shoot some of the head. To be honest too much is made of having to have the belly just inside the tip ring with spey lines. Find the 'sweet spot' for the rod/line combination you are using, mark it and use that as a guide rather than the factory colour change common on most lines. Alan I didn't realise Robson said he was a beginner He's already lifting and casting the 85ft head line. His initial query was with regards to shooting line, unless your at the very top end of the skill ladder your not going to be shooting vast quantities of running line with a 85ft head line. Its all about matching the correct line to the correct situation. If I spent all my time on big fast rivers the long belly is the way to go, like wise if I spent most of my time on big slow flowing rivers a shorter belly would be my first choice.
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Post by tyneandrew on Jun 3, 2006 10:39:55 GMT
The beat i'm possibly interested in is a 2 rod beat, not going to be rushing up there with current catches/levels though...
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