rennie
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Post by rennie on Sept 19, 2006 19:29:10 GMT
Any one out there tried one of these lines?,looking at the 8/9 model for my 13ft Norway Speycaster it could be just the job in a few tight spots at Ashiesteil in a few weeks,know its a shooting head underhand jobbie and its the right line rating as opposed to the Norwegian line which comes as a 8/9/10 and will probably be too heavy,price looks nearly acceptable too, well sort of.Always manage to clatter the tip rings off my 15/16ft rods under the trees in tiger country,trouble is its damn good water up there and its a crime not to fish it properly.Seen the Guide shooting heads in action and they look very good but work out top heavy on price if I buy a few different density's to be as flexible as the Scandinavian system. Pedro.
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Post by robson on Sept 20, 2006 7:08:14 GMT
Pedro, Stay away from Rio shooting heads. I have used couple of years Vision, Loop and GuideLine heads and now I bought one Scandinavian shooting head with a sink tip. I had to chance the whole casting style to a something like skagitwhackit to get even 20 m cast. My friends tested it too and we all were thinking, how someone can design a shooting head where all the taperings and weights are in a wrong place.  I gave it back to the shop where I bought it and did not ask money back. They can keep it as a demo line to avoid selling it to anybody without testing it first. So I took it as a lesson... If you can find a GuideLine DDC Connect head, you will have all you need. There is a couple of different sinking tips included (intermediate belly), and when you need to fish really deep you can use Wind cutter tips as they are same length and weights. |
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 20, 2006 18:10:14 GMT
Peter...I have just bought the guideline ddc sink3/4 and sink 4/5. These are 15yds in length and i am giving them a spin on the grainhead tomorrow and friday. The 18ft clan rod has magically appeared in my armoury (in case the wife sees this!!!) so i am ready to roll!!
I will let you know how i get on.
Have you heard how its been fishing lately?
Richard
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Post by Fruin on Sept 20, 2006 20:25:34 GMT
Richard,
Myself and another are thinking of fishing Muirtons or Rome Croy on Saturday. I like Muirtons for the amount of good fly water from the Back of the Island right down to the Sawmill, but realise that Rome Croy probably has a better catch record.
I've only fished either beat in low water. Do you know if they fish in higher water?
I'm weighing up the Tay, that will not cost anything on my PDAA ticket (providing I can get to Malloch's on time), or the Don if there is sufficient water. However, I just don't know how the Stormont waters fish if the level creeps up. Any clues would be much appreciated.
Sorry that I've strayed from the original thread!
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Post by madkeen on Sept 20, 2006 20:58:43 GMT
Pedro
Dont know if the scandinavian shooting heads are any good but they seem to be on US ebay (at about half the retail what we pay here) quite frequently.
Alan
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Post by hairyscotsman on Sept 20, 2006 21:05:17 GMT
This is the first year that i have fished there so ia m not the best person to ask. What i can gather is the muirton side will fish well with up to 2/3 ft on the gauge where as the rome croy will fish in most heights . Rennie is the best person to answer this question .
Richard
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Post by sagecaster on Sept 21, 2006 9:42:05 GMT
I've the the 10/11 tips version and quite like its adaptablity which is why I opted for it over the GuideLine system. Loads the rod very quickly.... it's a bit like an overloaded/weight wind cutter.
I was advised that you needed a really stiff rod to get the best out of the Scandnavian, I use a Sage 15.1 which seems to work ok. Robson's right in that you have to change your casting style, but I'm sure that this is purely down to its weight and unique profile.
I have found a problem getting regular serious distance(40yd+) but this is down to my ability rather than the line, the head is quite short so you do have to have reams of shooting line in your hands and I'm not an expert at dealing with this yet. The boys on the lower Tay are experts at managing this, so I don't expect you'll have any problems.
If you do get one, don't use the Rio shooting line, although it shoots well, its not very robust. I caught mine between two rocks on a cast and this sliced a good six inches off the outer core of the line. Have replaced it with Amnesia mono which I'm assured is much more durable.
I'm on the Muirton's side of the Grainhead(which I think I read somewhere that you are also occasionally) every week or so, if you want to try it out PM me and perhaps we might be able to meet up and you can try it for your self.
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Post by macd on Sept 21, 2006 10:18:10 GMT
Richard, Myself and another are thinking of fishing Muirtons or Rome Croy on Saturday. I like Muirtons for the amount of good fly water from the Back of the Island right down to the Sawmill, but realise that Rome Croy probably has a better catch record. I've only fished either beat in low water. Do you know if they fish in higher water? I'm weighing up the Tay, that will not cost anything on my PDAA ticket (providing I can get to Malloch's on time), or the Don if there is sufficient water. However, I just don't know how the Stormont waters fish if the level creeps up. Any clues would be much appreciated. Sorry that I've strayed from the original thread! gary, forget the don- you could fall in and not get wet. Will give you a shout when things get going.........probably march 2007 hows the family? |
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Post by robson on Sept 22, 2006 6:25:50 GMT
Robson's right in that you have to change your casting style, but I'm sure that this is purely down to its weight and unique profile. /quote] That's the point. No need to change, when there are already really good shooting heads, that casts like a laser beams (GuideLine, Vision, Loop). Try them and find the difference. |
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Post by rennie on Sept 22, 2006 14:02:32 GMT
Thanks to one and all,head is now officially a shed now trying to absorb all that lot.In answer to some of your questions; don't know how Stormont A.C. is fishing at the moment just got home after 10 days hard at it and will be lucky to get back there before seasons end,Fruin fish the Muirtons if the water is low 1ft or less then you can get right down the back of the Island and I mean right down, right onto the the neck of the woody hole,fish a floater and big sink tip your 1/3rd of the river as fish will run that side,if the water is 1ft or above fish Rome Croy again the back of the Island but with an 11 or 13 revy. punted well across,the Grainhead needs a really huge chuck nowadays as the flow has altered somewhat, its not the pool it was.The fishing hasn't been that good, 6 or so most days water has been great,big tides but distinct lack of Salar, 10 years ago in the water I fished in last week would have like watching the M1 at 5 o clock tea time, absolutely heaving.Sorry to have to say it but something needs to be done and done yesterday,when Almond mouth only get one or two fish a day on the biggest tide for years with the river running at 2ft and perfect in the second week in September ?.Take away the Ericht/Isla run of fish and there is bu###r all else left to fish for,thats experience talking not a desk and expense account.There said it,that should upset somebody all being well,hope you all fair well and get a few,great to meet some of you see you all again soon and meet some of you later tight lines Pedro.
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Post by Fruin on Sept 25, 2006 18:26:56 GMT
Rennie, Thanks for the advice. I fished the Rome Croy side and arrived to find a waiting time of over an hour to get on the Grainhead and another similar queue to get on the Back of the Island from this side. I went through the Grainhead once and on exiting, two rods immediately got into fresh fish, if only I had went one behind in the queue  After watching for a while and realising that we were essentially fishing for running fish, I decided to change to a Wetcel 2 and fish lower down on the stretch immediately below the Woody Hole. While my pal was bemaoning the waiting time and complaining that this stretch was running too fast, I hooked and landed a seven pound sea licer. I came out and let him in. I started from the top of the stretch again and hooked another fish about the same size. This one, and the fly, parted company after only a couple of minutes. Lesson - check the knot after unhooking a fish. I left after 6pm and there had been four off for the day. This is very poor for this stretch. Speaking to the regular rods, this year seems to have been particularly forgettable. Pictures to follow.... |
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Post by rennie on Sept 27, 2006 19:18:54 GMT
Well done Fruin you definitely picked the right tactics for your day out.Yes it has been a forgettable year,not the quality of fishing the club has been used to,seen your photo in the other section and thats a quality fish well worth your day out and a matched pair would have been a big day out.Nice bit of water down in the flats did you find the big stone out on the wading line,thats usually good for a giggle especially if you get to watch some one else find it.That bit of water is often quiet being the last fly water before the mixed method water down at the bunkers,the fly boys don't get that far and the spinner boys walk past.You still have a couple of weeks left so give it another go,your next fish could be 20lb heavier.Good luck Pedro.
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Post by Fruin on Sept 27, 2006 20:18:16 GMT
Rennie,
I never came across a large stone this time, as I was wading tighter to the bank with the high water. However, I've been known to come across large boulders here and elsewhere on the Tay; usually ending up in a soaking. Welcome on a hot day, but not in January!!!
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