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Post by munro on Nov 5, 2006 20:17:22 GMT
Colin - I agree with Springer 100%. I have one which I carry as a back up but I know someone who uses his as his only rod and swears by it. For £80 or so must be the practically the best value on the market.
Matched with a 10/11 IG line it also casts a treat.
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Post by jock on Nov 5, 2006 21:05:05 GMT
I bought a 14' 4 piece oracle as a back up. What a mistake..... I should have bought it as my main rod !!!! Got mine for £40 .... great rod, the best value for money rod you will ever buy.
Shakespeare are on a roll right now. Trion, President reels...wow, Oracle..... wow again. Bought both Trion and President reels.... absolute crackers for the money. I've not yet bought their fly lines.... but as they make the IG lines and everything else I have purchased from them is more like Hardy than Shakespeare maybe I should.
Question, is Shakespeare what Hardy used to be ? and Hardy now what Shakespeare used to be ? I exaggerate, maybe, but I don't think I'm far off the mark.....do you ? Value for money,with top quality....no way I'm off the mark, Shakespeare wins hands down.
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Post by turrifftackle on Nov 5, 2006 21:37:27 GMT
Folks
Hold the Bus.
Shakespeare have a new Salmon rod out for less money than the Oracle (The name escapes me for the moment)
It will probably sell for around the £40 mark as all things are discounted nowadays.
I saw one at the show and it looks ok. Word is - "Someone" said -you cant sell a rod like that for that sort of money!!
As to the Partridge rods - not much to better them for the money in my opinion. I resisted trying one all season until September and then I was sort of "forced" into trying the 15' with a Carron line-- WOW and then I tried the 13 ' and it was in full time use until the season end.
There is a whole new range of multi section trout rods and a 12 piece travel Salmon rod on offer now and some Fluorocarbon at £11 for a 50m spool. I believe the Partridge brand will go far and more products will be coming out every year.
Frank
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Post by beanieboy on Nov 6, 2006 16:41:21 GMT
I know its down to personal opinion - but I would'nt go for the Partridge - for the money there are, imo, better rods out there. Take a look at: Guideline LPXe £299 Bloke - 5 piece £170 e-bay Redington Redfly £199 Daiwa Wilderness £130 Then again I am probable the only person on this forum who considers the B&W Norway a truly awful rod - so what do I know! With these plaudits for the Oracle ,should i bother with the Partridge at all ;D Colin. |
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Post by turrifftackle on Nov 6, 2006 17:36:52 GMT
Multi Section Travel rods by Partridge.
You can have the 6 section 15' 11/12 (new retail is £350- I have one on sale at £300 )
Or you can have the 12 section 14' 10/11 or the 12 section 15' 10/11.
There are 10 sections of "rod" and the Butt is in two screw in pieces.
Full retail price is £360 for the 14' and £380 for the 15'.
They along with 6 and 8 piece travel trout rods come in a Small carry case.
When you lift the case you think it is empty- they are that light.
The New salmon rod from Shakespeare is the Odyssey and come in 12,13,14 and 15' versions.
The 12' is 8/9, the 13 and 14 are 9/10 and the 15' is 10/11.
Full retail prices are £50,£55, £60 and £65
Frank
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Post by williegunn on Nov 6, 2006 19:10:12 GMT
I know its down to personal opinion - but I would'nt go for the Partridge - for the money there are, imo, better rods out there. Take a look at: Guideline LPXe £299 Bloke - 5 piece £170 e-bay Redington Redfly £199 Daiwa Wilderness £130 Then again I am probable the only person on this forum who considers the B&W Norway a truly awful rod - so what do I know! With these plaudits for the Oracle ,should i bother with the Partridge at all ;D Colin. Bloke tried 2 both broke, Mick promised me another to try but it has never arrived. I would certainly fish a Partridge before a Bloke. The Guideline is good but very very fast. More an underhand rod than a Speycasting rod. The B&W Norway is probably still the best workhorse for less than £300.00 |
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Post by hardygem on Nov 6, 2006 19:47:38 GMT
The 15ft LPXE is a fantastic rod to use it is capable of effortless casts and great distance etc it is( imo ) equally at home performing traditional spey casts or underhand .It does though have a faster action than some other rods such as the hardy gem for instance which is a rod i have come to know and love.but after fishing with the LPXE for a day i am now undecided as to which would be my preferred 1st choice.The two rods do have very different actions timing etc has to be adjusted but it isn't beyond the average casters ability to learn these small adjustments quite quickly.I mean if i can manage it anyone can ;D
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Post by williegunn on Nov 6, 2006 19:53:32 GMT
Malcolm, Try a 15' LXPe with a Carron 85' 10/11, not as much of an underhand rod as you might think. 40yds made easy. A Carron 85 makes most rods look good |
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Post by robmason on Nov 6, 2006 22:13:57 GMT
I know its down to personal opinion - but I would'nt go for the Partridge - for the money there are, imo, better rods out there. Take a look at: Guideline LPXe £299 Bloke - 5 piece £170 e-bay Redington Redfly £199 Daiwa Wilderness £130 Then again I am probable the only person on this forum who considers the B&W Norway a truly awful rod - so what do I know! Bloke tried 2 both broke, Mick promised me another to try but it has never arrived. I would certainly fish a Partridge before a Bloke. The Guideline is good but very very fast. More an underhand rod than a Speycasting rod. The B&W Norway is probably still the best workhorse for less than £300.00 How did the Bloke rods break? I do recall you mentioning this before, and as a result I have attempted to push my rod to the limit. I'm pleased to report it is still in one piece. Tay in spring with fast sinking IG line, Tamar in summer with floater, autumn last with loop Q line. I had thought my best bet was with the sinking line, but where did I go wrong? Maybe I should omit the initial roll cast. I have broken 2 rods in the meantime, but I slammed the car door on them. |
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Post by williegunn on Nov 6, 2006 22:41:28 GMT
The first broke test casting a Loop Shooting head when I applied a bit of bottom hand.
The second broke 1st cast.
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Post by petersc on Dec 16, 2006 13:50:31 GMT
Back to the Oracle IV for a minute -- thinking about get one of these as well. I'm looking for a more moderate actioned rod, rather than a stiff stick. In 15' rods I've cast: Hardy Sirrus, Origin, & Gem (liked the Sirrus the best), Loomis Greaseliner in GLX (gorgeous) and the Deveron, Guideline LPXe (very stiff), Snowbee (own this one), T&T 1509 & 1510, Sage 9150 (UGH! ponderous beast), Loomis GL4 (used to own this one, another UGH!), and the St Croix Imperial. Out of this batch, I'm hoping the Oracle IV is most like the St. Croix. I'd buy that rod except that it is only a three piece and I need four.
Looking for a rod that's more relaxed in casting a DT line. Where would the Oracle IV fit on the spectrum of rods that I've mentioned?
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Post by jimthefish on Dec 16, 2006 14:50:52 GMT
The Guideline is good but very very fast. More an underhand rod than a Speycasting rod. [/quote] Malcolm- you need help. If I'm in the area I'll see what I can do. |
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Post by storlaks on Dec 16, 2006 16:16:37 GMT
I found it quite heavy when I tried it, certainly compared with some of the lighter ones you have mentioned above. I would give it an average rating. It's quite forgiving and certainly nothing like a Guideline LPXe.
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