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Post by williegunn on Mar 19, 2007 8:28:05 GMT
4) Buy them in the States if you can! CLaG Although the initial costs are cheaper, if or should be when, you have a leak and need a warrenty repair postage can be a bigger cost than your original saving.
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Post by speycaster on Mar 19, 2007 9:12:03 GMT
i think people forget the [after service] when buying from abroad and it can be quite costly [ie postage ] and the fact that the warranty will be registered in the country of sale when all theses things add up it doesn't seem like such a good deal but the lure of the initial price very often win , you win some you lose some , billy p
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Post by turrifftackle on Mar 19, 2007 10:09:59 GMT
The vision extremes are the only breathable wader I have sold that have not come back.
However if you are worried about seams- buy the Radipors- thay have no leg seams but they are more expensive at RRP GPB 300.
But if a few of you wanted I would not be adverse to a deal- use the forum sponsers to your advantage- you managed it with hooks- why not everything else. With over 500 members the buying power could be excellent.
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Post by castlikeaghille on Mar 19, 2007 11:16:39 GMT
WG Your point on warranty is correct, but I never bother with it now as even in the UK it's usually more bother than it is worth. I just accept breathable waders will start to leak; it's only a matter of time (although my last Visions lasted three full hard seasons - anyone beat that or is it an all time breathable record?). Instead I always have plenty of acquasure and plug away (litteraly :-) ) until the wader is almost more acquasure than wader before I finally bin it. However, I'll stick with my view that the best deal is buy bulk an end of line in the UK from a tackle dealer you use regularly or buy stateside (the cost will be about the same). I haven't recently be forced into a quick purchase of a new pair becuase I carry a spare pair. Mind you, if Captain Turriff is offering forum members Vision Extreme stocking foots on an offer you can't refuse basis he has my full attention. Shame Vision boots are rubbish and look like something Boris Karloff should wear on set ..can you get Henry's Fork Guides with the felt and stud sole? Regardez CLaG P.S For forum feedback of my crews (32 experinced anglers) I would say we are about 50% Vision, 20% Simms, 15% Orivs and 15% others including the dark horse of the pack Airflo
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Post by jock on Mar 19, 2007 12:16:53 GMT
I want to buy from the UK and if Frank does a deal on Visions I'm up for it. So count me in if your price is good Frank.
I have more or less decided it is between Orvis and Vision. I've had 6 trouble free years with my Orvis Pro Guides and they have had a lot of abuse.
When I bought my Orvis I negotiated a 20% discount on the price from a local dealer as I prefer to support UK retailers. However the current UK price is £269 and the USA price $289 including a free $49bag such a price differential is totally unjustified.
I calculate that I could import the Orvis from USA and it will cost a maximum £190 including postage, VAT and duty. Compared to a discounted possible £215.
If I get a good discount on either Orvis or Visions in the UK I'll go for that. If I have to battle for a realistic price then USA here I come.
Dealers in the UK are either ripping us off or the manufactures are ripping them off, or a bit of both? Anyway more and more will be buying abroad and stuff the warranty and local service. Clg makes a very good point about buying end of lines and last years model.
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Post by elwyman on Mar 19, 2007 23:01:51 GMT
4) Buy them in the States if you can! CLaG Although the initial costs are cheaper, if or should be when, you have a leak and need a warrenty repair postage can be a bigger cost than your original saving. That's why I always buy my waders from my local dealer. I was tempted to get some discounted Vision Extremes from sportfish recently, but ended up getting some cheap Wychwood waders for £90 from Foxons. I've only used them twice, but they seem fine and I like the big pocket on the front - ideal for a flybox. I'll be happy if I get a season out of them at that price.
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Post by windy on Mar 21, 2007 15:17:57 GMT
WG I just accept breathable waders will start to leak; it's only a matter of time (although my last Visions lasted three full hard seasons - anyone beat that or is it an all time breathable record?). Instead I always have plenty of acquasure and plug away (litteraly :-) ) until the wader is almost more acquasure than wader before I finally bin it. You forgot about my Vision extremes that mock your record, lots of aquasure but still going good after 6+ seasons. Replaced them with last years model and wore down the inside seam in 3 weeks so returned to my old faithfuls again. Not sure of the problem with last seasons model but they were totally wrecked after about 6 uses and I am not known for ever walking very far ! Will be interested to see what the new ones are like, anyone know if the new zip model still has an inside seam ? Anyone tried the new Hardy ones ? Cheers Windy
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Post by castlikeaghille on Mar 21, 2007 17:34:54 GMT
[quote author=windy board=tackleroom thread=1170506604 post=1174490277 [/quote] You forgot about my Vision extremes that mock your record, lots of aquasure but still going good after 6+ seasons. Replaced them with last years model and wore down the inside seam in 3 weeks so returned to my old faithfuls again. Not sure of the problem with last seasons model but they were totally wrecked after about 6 uses and I am not known for ever walking very far ![/quote] Aye Windy, but you only walked a grand total of two hundred and twenty three yards in them during those 6+ seasons - no wonder they survived - paraphrasing the words of the late great Roy Castle...dedication's not what you need if you want to be a breathable record breaker ;D Hope you've got some salmo's and wee red floaty devons for the morn...Collie Dog is hiding his stash from ya (that's of spinners bye the way) CLaG
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Post by greenbanks on Mar 21, 2007 19:47:45 GMT
WG I just accept breathable waders will start to leak; it's only a matter of time (although my last Visions lasted three full hard seasons - anyone beat that or is it an all time breathable record?). Instead I always have plenty of acquasure and plug away (litteraly :-) ) until the wader is almost more acquasure than wader before I finally bin it. You forgot about my Vision extremes that mock your record, lots of aquasure but still going good after 6+ seasons. Replaced them with last years model and wore down the inside seam in 3 weeks so returned to my old faithfuls again. Not sure of the problem with last seasons model but they were totally wrecked after about 6 uses and I am not known for ever walking very far ! Will be interested to see what the new ones are like, anyone know if the new zip model still has an inside seam ? Anyone tried the new Hardy ones ? Cheers Windy Met some guys from Norway who had acquired some Hardys and they thought they were the Muttz Nutz after a fair bit of wear.More reliable than their angelic rods ;D Nice to see you've joined the forum Windy hope you are going to have a guid season. SPK
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Post by storlaks on Mar 21, 2007 19:50:54 GMT
I have a friend who is now on his 4th pair of Vision waders in 3 seasons. All had inside seam problems. I am on my second pair of Patagonia SST+ in 7 years. The first pair only leaked as I stuck a few flies in them. ;D
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Post by wilbert on Mar 22, 2007 20:46:50 GMT
I was going to buy a pair of the new Vision extremes with the zip as my old pair of extremes have lasted through 4 tough seasons. I have however decided to go for the Vision Gillie waders as they are made from superior material and are 6 ply from the knee down and I cant see a genuine need for the zip although it does look well constructed. I have managed to get my old waders off pretty quick in an emergency situation after an extra hot chicken tikka vindaloo the night before, they still won't allow me back in Tesco 2 years on.
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Post by jock on Mar 22, 2007 21:03:57 GMT
I have managed to get my old waders off pretty quick in an emergency situation after an extra hot chicken tikka vindaloo the night before, they still won't allow me back in Tesco 2 years on. What on earth were you doing wearing waders in Tesco ? God man you could get arrested for dropping them in public.
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Post by wilbert on Mar 22, 2007 21:07:42 GMT
A bit of poetic licence with the truth and the punch line from a joke I was once told. The emergency was real enough though but i was on my own down the river.
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Post by jock on Mar 22, 2007 21:08:29 GMT
Wilbert,
I meant to mention in my last post. Give Frank a pm if you are thinking of getting the Vision Gillie. I have more or less decided that is what I'm getting and where I'm getting them from.
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Post by elwyman on Mar 26, 2007 21:13:44 GMT
I bought a pair of Loop Pro waders from John Norris in mid Jan, when asked about warranty the guy in the shop said "I don't think we've ever had a pair back" so I bought with confidence. Well theres always a first Catastrophic inside seam failure this evening, the seasons just 6wks old. Bad luck Alan. I noticed the Loop waders were on offer when I was in Norris's about a month ago. They looked very nice for the price, nice soft material as well. They had 2 types, one didn't have shoulder straps, just a drawcord around the top.
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Post by elwyman on Mar 26, 2007 21:17:44 GMT
When you say catastrophic seam failure, what happened?
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Post by elwyman on Mar 26, 2007 21:52:23 GMT
Give Norris a ring, you could ask for a refund if they've failed like that.
I normally make sure I've got a reasonable spare pair of waders in reserve - my current spares are 2 years old and plastered in aquasure, but they don't leak!
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Post by wilbert on Mar 30, 2007 21:18:18 GMT
Picked up the Vision Gillie waders today and I am very impressed with them. They are comfortable to wear and have a quality feel about them both in the material and the build. If they serve me as well as my old extremes then I will be more than happy with them. I wore them for 4 hours today whilst doing a bit of fishing / tuning some shooting heads to my rod and its a great feeling to be completely dry at the end of the day as for the last 6 months I have been used to having wet legs. I also splashed out the the Gillie jacket too and it feels great although not everyone will like the burnt orange colour but at least i will stand out from the crowd.
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Post by zephead on Apr 2, 2007 23:06:44 GMT
Just picked up a pair of these new Vision things with t't zip in the front as a replacement for a pair of Visions that have had the tar beaten out of them over 4 seasons and are only being replaced because a mate used them and put a hole in the arse with a shrimp flee and the aquasure might erode at some point.The hum from them after 4 seasons is quite enough as well-eau de wet a spaniel seems to spring to the olfactory nerves upon each donning.
Have to say I was rather shocked at these being produced and don't know whether I'd have actually chosen them myself as was looking to upgrade to a pair of Simms and pay the overage-only trouble was they were so tight below the knee that they wouldn't fit-even over a pair of medium weight breek socks and I'm not that fat a thingy!
Tried to get a bigger pair but apparently Simms don't make 'em which for a company based in the Land of the Lard-arsed is mighty strange.Anyway will see how these fare after a week on Tweed and give a fat boy field test report.
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Post by jock on Apr 3, 2007 7:34:23 GMT
Wait till next week, you can try a pair of Large regs then
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