guideline rods

[madkeen]

Has anyone experience of the longest guideline rod.I think it's 15ft 9in.
Alan

[storlaks]

Alan, this may have been reviewed before but yes I have this rod and it's great. Light in the hand and has a lovely action. It's not a stiff rod but very powerful. It's medium-fast so recovery is quick. I rate it very highly as I do on most of Guidelines rods, certainly the Le Cie range and LPXe.

[Peter Terndrup]

Hi Alan

As John mention you get a lot for you money bying Guideline, and both Lpxe and Le Cie rods are very good.
I have tried the 13´7" Le Cie several times. Its very poular overhere in DK.

[kercock]

Alan,I have the Le Cie 14'8 and the 15'LPX if you want to try either or both. Will be trying out a 15'9 in March, I'm told it is a serious bit of kit.

[madkeen]

Thanks for the offer Dennis will try to get up to Kercock in march to have a cast with the guideline rods.
Alan

[kercock]

Honestly do not know,I don't want rush the guy.

[albyn73]

My mate got the 15' 9"Guideline, and he had at the same time a 15' 1" SAGE european. He got rid of the sage because it would lift the line out of water but would'nt put it back out, the guideline did. I can honestly say the guideline is a powerhouse of a rod, as i called it a beast of a rod . Put a Bill DRURY Spey line on and try it for yourself, I bet you will fall in love with it. we tried it with a John Monteith Spey multi tip its only £125. WELL RIO started it....+

[jock]

Thanks for supplying the LPXe's Frank. JohnC and I will be trying them out at the first opportunity. Although we test cast the 15' on the Lochy.
I came across these pics. of the day we were test casting on the Lochy. The first shows the action of the 15' LPXe 10/11, the second the 3 piece Norway 10/11 and the third the 4 piece Norway 10/11

The LPXe action


Norway 3 piece action


Norway 4 piece


Unfortunately the pics once put on the forum don't show the more through action of the Norway compared to the LPXe as well as I had hoped.

[robmason]

No, I think it does come across- good pics!

[tyneflyfisha]

Jock
Cracking pictures ...nice one

Springer
If you get a chance to use it please post your opinion ...I'm really keen to hear what you think
TFF

[beanieboy]

God - look at the bend in that Norway! - I must be one of the few people on this site who doesn't rate this rod - the LPXe on the otherhand is superb. Interesting pictures.

[jock]

tyneflyfisha said:

Jock
Cracking pictures ...nice one

Springer
If you get a chance to use it please post your opinion ...I'm really keen to hear what you think
TFF

As you probably know, it was Springer casting in the first two pictures. I know what he thinks, it was his LPXe but I'll leave him to give his opinion when he returns from Speyside. That cast with the Norway was superb I have the full sequence of stills for that particular cast, nice tight loop, perfect turnover etc.

[elwyman]

beanieboy said:

God - look at the bend in that Norway! - I must be one of the few people on this site who doesn't rate this rod - the LPXe on the otherhand is superb. Interesting pictures.

He's obviously hooked a bush on his backcast.

[jock]

elwyman said:

He's obviously hooked a bush on his backcast.

Oh he will be upset at you

Here in the next still from that cast

[splash]

beanieboy said:

God - look at the bend in that Norway! - I must be one of the few people on this site who doesn't rate this rod - the LPXe on the otherhand is superb. Interesting pictures.

I agree with you totally , the Norway looks like a piece of spaghetti !

[sacha]

On the subject of the le cie, my dad has the 15, 9 and the 14,6. I have tried them both out and the action is the same with the flex 3 to 4 feet down from the tip, as you all know these rods are designed for shooting heads. I have tried various shooting heads from loop to guide lines system they cast very well on both of the rods.
Back to the 15,9" this is a tramendous rod although dont be frightened to purchase one because they cast well with long spey lines, i have used the carron line jet stream on this rod and found it spectacular this is the 11-12 rating jet stream of course, 85 foot head.
This outfit with spey lines on the guide lines works well with a modern spey cast with a tight corner on the back and a tight loop on the frount, this is how to get the full potential out of the rod.
As a small sixteen year old boy i have with this modern cast found myself castin over forty yards on a good cast and my dad can reach over fifty himself.
So my conclusion about the 15,9" is that a modern powerfull spey cast with a long head is needed to get the best distance out of this.

Sacha ;D

[jock]

springer said:

While on Speyside last week I spent an evening with Ian Gordon at Knockando casting a wide range of different rods, one that he gave me to try was very sweet and a reel pleasure to use, it cast 35-40yds with ease, was light in the hand a had plenty of feel. What was it you might wonder as I did?....................

15' Shakespeare Odyssey RRP just over £50, it really makes you wonder

Welcome back.....no mention of fish I see

Shakespeare are producing the goods in terms of superb value for money IMO but they do not seem to cut it in the marketing stakes. Shame, but if they keep it up their products will get the recognition. Says he the now owner of a LPXe

Regarding the royalties, should I not get them for making your casts look so good ;D

[madkeen]

I have cast the shakespeare odyssey and the oracle and they are both a bargain.Tried the oracle on the same day as the sage 15ft 1 and the oracle was a better casting tool.I think it comes down to image that more people don't use shakespeare products.Going to borrow the guideline 15ft 9 for a throw in the next week or so and will be interesting to see how it compares with my current rod (B+W powerlite 16ft 9/10)it will have to be special to convince me to replace it.

[tyneflyfisha]

Springer
Brian had one of the Shakespeare Oracle IV rods at farnley last night...I was amazed at what it would do . It would be an interesting experiment to blank out the logos pass it to a good caster and let them try it against a number of higher priced rods.

[splash]

I had a chance to really field test my 14ft 8 Medium Fast Le Cie 9/10 on the Dee this week. Fishing Lower Dess with ghillie Mark Pearson who is on Guidelines UK Pro Staff and had turned up with a identical Le Cie of his own, I was able to test the rods with a number of lines including:

Loop Quattro Tip 9/10 51ft head set up for a beginner
Guideline Power Taper Hover/Intermediate 9/10 head (uncut)
Snowbee 2D floater 9/10 62ft head
Guideline Bill Drury Impact Spey floater 9/10 62ft head
Monteith full floater 10/11 68ft head with 10ft intermediate polyleader

My immediate impression was how light in the hand and well balanced the rod feels, much nearer to a 14 ft rod than a 15fter . This is a fishing tool par excellence and is sweet and effortless to cast. Both Mark and I felt it combined particularly well with the Loop Quattro Tip which has a shorter head than I would normally use but was a cracking combination for the mid Dee and similar medium size rivers. Needless to say it launched the power tapers and the Bill Drury line a mile with great turnover (the Drury line is particularly good in this respect as long as you remember to draw the head back into the rod due to this lines long rear taper). The rod felt slightly overloaded with the Monteith which was not surprising as it was overloaded by a line weight but again with sensible adjustment of the head length using the marker good distance and presentation could be achieved.

This is a super rod for mid sized rivers using medium bellied Spey lies and shooting heads and is a fine choice as an all rounder. It is effortless to use and handles snake rolls and snap T's with ease of both left and right shoulders. If you were chucking larger flies and heavy sinking lines on a regular basis then the 10/11 Fast may be a more appropriate choice but as an all round fishing and casting tool this beauty is the best rod I've used to date.