Single Handers for Sea Trout and Summer Salmon

[splash]

Given the paucity of salmon on the Dee this week , I ended up concentrating on sea trout in the evenings using the Guideline Le Cie 12ft 6in 8/9 and LPXe 10ft #8 rods. Fishing the 10ft LPXe with a Vosseler S1 and a Rio Grand long bellied floating line, I was struck at the water coverage that I could obtain on the Dee at its current summer level and, to date, this remains my favourite set up for sea trout and small river salmon. Other anglers that I fish with eschew fast action rods for sea trout fishing in favour of more through actioned models, a good example of this being that several of my fishing friends use the 10ft #7 Sage XP for reservoir trout fishing but hate it for night fishing for sea trout due to its relatively unforgiving nature.

I'd be interested in the weapons of choice that other members of the forum use for this type of fishing including which lines and set ups they employ

cheers

Splash

[acw]

splash said:

Given the paucity of salmon on the Dee this week , I ended up concentrating on sea trout in the evenings using the Guideline Le Cie 12ft 6in 8/9 and LPXe 10ft #8 rods. Fishing the 10ft LPXe with a Vosseler S1 and a Rio Grand long bellied floating line, I was struck at the water coverage that I could obtain on the Dee at its current summer level and, to date, this remains my favourite set up for sea trout and small river salmon. Other anglers that I fish with eschew fast action rods for sea trout fishing in favour of more through actioned models, a good example of this being that several of my fishing friends use the 10ft #7 Sage XP for reservoir trout fishing but hate it for night fishing for sea trout due to its relatively unforgiving nature.

I'd be interested in the weapons of choice that other members of the forum use for this type of fishing including which lines and set ups they employ

cheers

Splash

I am very content with my 10.6 Falkus seatrout special hexograph,matched with a DT8 floater ,does all I want ,even occaisionally use it on the ressers when I want to rollcast rather than overhead
But then Ican be rather old fashioned ,and mean when it comes to buying new Tackle

[Sloggi]

Greys Greylex 10' 6" is good rod. Fine caster and strong enough for grilse.

A short D/H rod is a good alternative. B&W Salmo/Sewin is a good rod. 11' 3" double-hander to which I have a Windcutter line - 7/8/9 I think. Overheads and speys easily enough.

[williegunn]

For casting at night the Sage is fine but it is hopeless when playing a seatrout, hence the use of softer rods.

[dunbar]

I've got a couple of 10' 7 weights for sea trout. Sage SLT which is more forgiving than the XP and what I would reckon to be the perfect sea trout rod. The other is a Hardy Origin which has a bit more 'steel'.

I've also just gone and bought a Loop Blue line 11' 2" #7 for single handed salmon fishing. Christ knows when I will get a chance to use it, if the current conditions persist. (although it was persisting down this morning).

[splash]

dunbar said:

I've got a couple of 10' 7 weights for sea trout. Sage SLT which is more forgiving than the XP and what I would reckon to be the perfect sea trout rod. The other is a Hardy Origin which has a bit more 'steel'.

I've also just gone and bought a Loop Blue line 11' 2" #7 for single handed salmon fishing. Christ knows when I will get a chance to use it, if the current conditions persist. (although it was persisting down this morning).

Would agree with you re the SLT Dunbar its a cracker. I would be interested in your experience with the Blue Line 11fter as the double handed blue line series were very nice rods and a bit underestimated IMHO

[salmonking]

For sea trout i have an old greys Montana,10 ft and pretty robust it is,handles salmon not bad either for a single hander
in the right conditions(low water)though i use a but extension.

[chasb]

I used either a Hardy 10.5 foot 7/8 with a 5 inch ext butt for most of my fishing on the tynes & coquet, this rod will also handle salmon to 15 pounds and use the rod a lot duringthe day as well. Alternatives are a 9.5 foot David Norwich 6/7 or a Sirrus 9 foor 8 wt (had Kings to 25 on this).

Lines are mainly Mach 1s, Airflo Deltas and I've bought a snowbee dt to try this season.

[splash]

chasb said:

I used either a Hardy 10.5 foot 7/8 with a 5 inch ext butt for most of my fishing on the tynes & coquet, this rod will also handle salmon to 15 pounds and use the rod a lot duringthe day as well. Alternatives are a 9.5 foot David Norwich 6/7 or a Sirrus 9 foor 8 wt (had Kings to 25 on this).

Lines are mainly Mach 1s, Airflo Deltas and I've bought a snowbee dt to try this season.

Aye, the Norwich rods seem to be quite popular with sea trouters and I know collie dog likes to use one for this purpose (an old M4 or 500 10 ft 6 7/8 if I recall). What are his new EV4 salmon rods like , does anyone use them routinely?

[Sloggi]

splash said:

chasb said:

I used either a Hardy 10.5 foot 7/8 with a 5 inch ext butt for most of my fishing on the tynes & coquet, this rod will also handle salmon to 15 pounds and use the rod a lot duringthe day as well. Alternatives are a 9.5 foot David Norwich 6/7 or a Sirrus 9 foor 8 wt (had Kings to 25 on this).

Lines are mainly Mach 1s, Airflo Deltas and I've bought a snowbee dt to try this season.

Apologies in advance for going off topic but are Norwich rods any good? Never used one nor seen anyone using one?

[splash]

steve said:

splash said:

Aye, the Norwich rods seem to be quite popular with sea trouters and I know collie dog likes to use one for this purpose (an old M4 or 500 10 ft 6 7/8 if I recall). What are his new EV4 salmon rods like , does anyone use them routinely?

How new are is the "new" EV 4 ? I thought it had been around for a few years.

Was that not the EV2 the predecessors to the EV4?

[Sloggi]

Website may provide clarification:

www.davidnorwich.com/

Are the salmon rods any good?

[splash]

steve said:

splash said:

Was that not the EV2 the predecessors to the EV4?

Not sure, the EV 2 continues in the trout range. I think, but am far from certain that if there was an EV 2 Salmon range it went out of production a few years ago. Clarication v. welcome .

Steve

As you mention its a bit confusing. There is a picture of him with a tweed salmon caught using an EV2 salmon rod which you would guess was the predecessor to the EV4 but the EV2's are still current in the trout range and the EV3's are salt water rods. ???I've had several trout rods of his and have always been impressed by the build and blank quality

[sinkingtip]

I used for many years the 'old' Hardy Stillwater 12' single handed #6 with a Perfect 3"5/8. The 4" extension handle being optional. Good 'all rounder' for loch, summer salmon and seatrout. The real beauty being it took a No. 6 line which IMO was crucial for fishing shrunken pools. Lost the complete rig one night in a fishing hut style poker match but c'est la vie.
Presently using the 11' Hardy Sirrus #6 with matching reel. Again, a No. 6 line. Extremely light, capable of sensitivity when playing even a run of the mill 3 pound seatrout but 'beefy' enough to bring under control and tame fish up to 15lbs.

[elwyman]

steve said:

winston make nice rods for sea trout fishing.

I'd have to second that Steve. ;D

[chasb]

Norwich rods are excellent, I've had 2 EV2s, the only problem is that some foreign made reels dont like the Strubel reel fittings but I'd recommend them.

[splash]

Thanks for the posts guys. Has anyone tried the Guideline Le Cie SHS Single handers? I tend to use my 12ft 6 8/9 MF Le Cie for the bigger rivers but I noticed that they do sound like they would be ideal for this sort of fishing. These rods have been created with single handed spey fishing in mind for seatrout and steelhead - any feedback most welcome

[chasb]

No but have got an 11 foot 8/9 lpxe which is about the same build and a very good rod

[splash]

chasb said:

No but have got an 11 foot 8/9 lpxe which is about the same build and a very good rod

Thanks, Will be a tad stiffer than the Le Cie I suspect based upon my 10ft #8 wt LPXe

[al44]

I use an old John Norris Spiralite 10'6" #7-9. I believe they were built on a B&W blank. Great rod, had it for years, handles salmon well, the only criticism is that it's two piece.

Then again you can't have everything can you?