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Post by balnacoil on Jun 3, 2006 22:38:07 GMT
I've a day booked on the Cargill beat of the Tay later this week. I've never fished the Tay before, (my local river is the Dee) I'll be on the lower Cargill beat for the day. Does anyone have any advice? Do I need to dust off my spinning rod?  or can I stick with using my trusty fly rod? Thanks in advance... |
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Post by tyneandrew on Jun 4, 2006 10:50:50 GMT
The Tay is a big river, you are only a few miles above Stanley where i fish. However, the river is falling to summer level now and it says on the Cargill web site:
"If the water is low good catches can be made at all times of the year"
Enough to keep the enthusiasm up! Sure there will be plenty of nice fly water, the Tay is one river where i'd usually throw the spinning rod in especially on the lower reaches. Although you might not really need it...
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Post by tyneandrew on Jun 4, 2006 21:02:07 GMT
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Post by tyneandrew on Jun 4, 2006 21:02:34 GMT
standard error!!!  |
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Post by Fruin on Jun 4, 2006 21:29:27 GMT
I've only fished Cargill once, but in low water the top of the beat will fish best with the fly rod. There are other stretches wher the fly will work, but the stretch from the bridge down to the hut is your most likely area for the fly. Looking upstream from the hut...  I'd be happy fishing that stretch for the day. If you want to cover all the pools, put the spinning gear in the boot of the car. Looking downstream from the hut...  |
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Post by tyneandrew on Jun 4, 2006 21:40:04 GMT
Fruin, do you recognise the picture i posted - it was taken from the garden at Balathie House?
Is it Balathie beat or do the teo beats just rotate??
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Post by Fruin on Jun 4, 2006 22:14:35 GMT
Yes, I did recognise it. I think it is Ballathie that rotates with Cargill, but I cannot remember the arrangement. They rotate the upper and lower beats on different days, is about all I know. More informationon the Cargill beat... www.taysalmon.co.uk/ |
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Post by kercock on Jun 5, 2006 6:58:35 GMT
The photo's above don't help i'm afraid if you are on the lower beat. the fish tend to build up where fruin mentioned,for sure. However, Dave the ghillie on Cargill is coming round to see me this morning,I will find out the crack for you and post it when I get in from "work" tonight.
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Post by Fruin on Jun 5, 2006 7:52:38 GMT
Sorry Balnacoil. I should have read your post with a more focussed mind. I just realised you mentioned that you would be fishing the lower beat.
I've no useful advice on the lower beat as I've only walked along it and never swam a fly through it.
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Post by toucan on Jun 5, 2006 8:41:13 GMT
There is some good flyfishing on the lower beat but also some water that is best fished with the spinner (upstream toby). However, the beat is fairly heavily rodded and so you should make your preferences known right from the outset if you want to get a good crack at the best bits. From memory, The Cradle is the best catch on the lower beat but it fishes best from the boat.
It is a great and historic stretch of water and you should certainly enjoy your day.
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Post by balnacoil on Jun 5, 2006 21:24:11 GMT
Many thanks to all for your comments, I'm certainly looking forward to my day. Cheers.
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Post by kercock on Jun 6, 2006 7:12:57 GMT
Dave,the gillie was saying you would be best with both rods with you and as fruin said the best of the fly water is on the upper beat, there are certainly fish around,we had two fresh ones yesterday on fly and we are three beats upstream of Cargill.,one on a gold bodied Willie Gunn waddington two inches long and one one a size 8 treble Cascade. At Cargill there is faster water so you may want bigger flies. As fruin rightly said give the upstream casting a shot with the spinner, Toby or flying C. That area is an absolute graveyard for spinning gear,upstreaming is much less expensive,believe me. Hope this helps you,even a wee bit.
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or can I stick with using my trusty fly rod?
