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Post by salmonscotty16lb on Jan 14, 2007 16:16:02 GMT
i try keep 2 fish a season catching them clean enough to meet my own personal preference is different. last year i had 4 killed one cock
05 4 fish killed one.
04 3 killed 0
03 6 killed 2
looking at it i do kill my fair share but if i landed 100 chances are 2 would be kept
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Post by stoater on Jan 17, 2007 18:54:59 GMT
Would love to-add my two-penny worth into this thread. But it seems an odd one. Started by a "grey man" who may not be what he says he is, then, maybe to feel good about ourselves we profess to releasing approximately 95%+ of the fish we catch! C'mon, surely this is not a true picture? All other figures from Scottish DFSB's, EA etc. suggest otherwise. Hopefully this forum just has a massively wider appreciation of the benefits of C&R! Or, this forum really does have a more altruistic class of fisherman!  |
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Post by acw on Jan 17, 2007 19:15:15 GMT
Must confess I caught one fish last year ,well before the june 16th so it had to go back.
would have possibly taken one fish from the brora in august but had one pull all week and no backend fishing this year cos Tinsley flogged his bit of Cumbrian Esk
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Post by salmonking on Jan 17, 2007 21:58:14 GMT
Would love to-add my two-penny worth into this thread. But it seems an odd one. Started by a "grey man" who may not be what he says he is, then, maybe to feel good about ourselves we profess to releasing approximately 95%+ of the fish we catch! C'mon, surely this is not a true picture? All other figures from Scottish DFSB's, EA etc. suggest otherwise. Hopefully this forum just has a massively wider appreciation of the benefits of C&R! Or, this forum really does have a more altruistic class of fisherman! STOATER, Dont take offence or this personaly...i've heard some horror stories of some of the TAS members killing fish on my local especially spinning,when an agreement was apparently agreed that spinning was out of bounds,you can correct me if I'm wrong on the second point.I would like to think that c&r has a big role to play on rivers such as the one I'm referring to. Remember I'm not saying all members are like above,i have only heard what Ive heard from more than one person,so i dont think its the guys on this forum,if they practice c&r and say so thats great for the future of improving rivers and the sport in general. cheers col. |
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Post by tyneandrew on Jan 17, 2007 22:08:12 GMT
Topender, how does your tally fair for the season in terms of catch:release rates? Be honest, if you dare  |
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Post by Yorkshire Esk on Jan 17, 2007 22:25:51 GMT
(Quote" "I know of one guy who fishes the beat opposite where I usually fish and he kills everything that is silver. Comments have been made but he shrugs his shoulders and thinks nothing of it."
So why not name and shame this person. As far as I know all the rivers I have fished on, it is a none starter for selling rod caught fish.
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Post by Tyne Angler on Jan 18, 2007 10:27:24 GMT
2006 Season - Caught 2 - Released 2.
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Post by tyneandrew on Jan 18, 2007 11:51:49 GMT
Can't get better than that Dave!
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Post by macd on Jan 18, 2007 16:02:16 GMT
without going off at a tangent, the c&r issue needs a lot more effort in terms of educating anglers on how to do it properly. Remember, scientists tell us that c&r can realise a 95% survival rate. But this figure only indicates the potential of the policy.
Any policy is only as good as its application.
R
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Post by Bogyoch on Jan 18, 2007 17:14:45 GMT
It is unlikely that those forum members who keep many or all their fish would admit to it here.
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Post by say on Jan 18, 2007 20:53:39 GMT
(Quote" "I know of one guy who fishes the beat opposite where I usually fish and he kills everything that is silver. Comments have been made but he shrugs his shoulders and thinks nothing of it."
So why not name and shame this person. As far as I know all the rivers I have fished on, it is a none starter for selling rod caught fish.
Yorkshire Esk,
Don't believe in name and shame, also in the eyes of the law this angler is doing no wrong in killing his fish. I have however mentioned this to the ghillie of that beat and he's apparently had words with the angler in question.
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Post by topender on Jan 20, 2007 11:22:51 GMT
tyneandrew,
I caught 1 salmon which i took & 8 seatrout of which 3 were kept.
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Post by Fruin on Jan 20, 2007 21:53:03 GMT
I generally keep two fish a year. If I catch 6 and keep two, is that worse than catching 20 and keeping two? If I only catch two and keep both of them, does that make me the worst kind of fisherman?
I would say that the person that catches 102 and kills 2, is doing more damage to stocks than the person that catches two and keeps them both, because it is likely that they have killed another few that will not survive the catch and release process.
The point is - no one is a hero for returning fish, it is there general attitude to the sport that will preserve stocks, not the number of fish returned.
Normally, I would say that no one angler should kill more than one fish a day. However, if an angler has a red letter day and a huge shoal of fish passes through the beat they are fishing, resulting in them catching 8 fish over a 2 hour period. How much damage would be done by taking two fish from that large shoal? A lot less damage than somebody taking one fish from a less well stocked river.
The bigger picture needs looked at before chastising or praising anglers on the C&R statistics alone.
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Post by smigel on Jan 20, 2007 22:31:48 GMT
Approximately one fish kept every 2 years, and that one is usually from Scotland. On the rivers I fish in England, the limitations of month of the year/fish size/voluntary codes etc combined with the 'traditional' difficulties of catching fish (availability/fish colour/water colour/water temperature/water level etc. etc. etc mitigate against my keeping any more. In other words., I don't catch enough fresh fish of the right size from the right rivers at the right time to have to worry about it too much....
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Post by stoater on Jan 22, 2007 22:05:02 GMT
What Fruin says sounds about right to me
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Post by Fruin on Jan 22, 2007 22:24:43 GMT
Thanks Stoater. I expected to be shot at for my comments.
What gets on my nerves is anglers that act as if they have done the fish a favour by releasing it. As anglers, we respect the fish, but the reason that we return fish is to protect the natural resource and our future sporting interests, and not through any concern for the well being of any individual fish.
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Post by Fruin on Jan 23, 2007 22:42:59 GMT
Springer, Once you pick your weapon, can you wait until after the 10th of February, as I have two days booked on the Tay. |
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Post by salmonscotty16lb on Jan 25, 2007 2:17:39 GMT
fruin/ Gary i have seen fish put back that lost there last legs long before the fight was over then after the 10 pictures held up by the tail  the poor fish slips away with one sure future and its not to spawn  c&r is only worth it done properly? having a trout background i have caught the same fish (it had a bad scar) 3 Fridays in a row! i know a salmon getting hooked twice is highly unlikely but it has the chance to spawn? but bleeding fish or poorly handled fish is no good to the river they wont survive to finish there job |
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Post by lomond on Jan 25, 2007 20:52:22 GMT
I read somewhere that hen fish outnumber cock fish 3 to 1. Not sure how true this is, may vary from system to system. I seem to catch more hen fish than cock fish, but not at above ratio. Point is ,if people chap all the cock fish then the hen fish left will have with nothing to spawn with. Is this why we get baggots ?
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Post by salmonking on Jan 25, 2007 20:57:48 GMT
Ah ha,never thought of that,could be some logic there,good point
not shure though.
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the poor fish slips away with one sure future and its not to spawn 
c&r is only worth it done properly? having a trout background i have caught the same fish (it had a bad scar) 3 Fridays in a row! i know a salmon getting hooked twice is highly unlikely but it has the chance to spawn? but bleeding fish or poorly handled fish is no good to the river they wont survive to finish there job