INDEPENDENT SCOTLAND

[charlieh]

OK, I'll take this slowly, since some of you seem to have trouble understanding me - perhaps it's the accent.

ibrox said:

What's drunken Scotsmen in a park got to do with Scottish Independence. I'm sure there's as many drunken English on this side of the border so geez a break eh! Don't stereotype us all, mate.

1. Drunken Scotsmen in a park have nothing to do with Scottish Independence. Did I make any such link? As I said above, it was a flippant comment in response to the suggestion earlier in this thread (from a Scot, I believe, or at least a resident of Scotland) that the Scots should deport their unemployable to England.

2. I'm sure you're right about drunken Englishmen north of the border, though fail to see the relevance because:

3. I'm not stereotyping. Please point to anything in my posts on this thread that can be deemed to be so. Those who know me know that I loathe and despise stereotyping.

childofthemist said:

"very significant proportion-- Scottish" I'm sure the two of them would love to know they are a very significant number. Maybe its because you think one of us are worth many of you !

I didn't say they were a significant number, I said they were a significant proportion. Off the top of my head I can only think of one other drunk I see as regularly in the park. He's black; I suppose he may be Scottish too, though I don't think so. So these guys represent 66% - a significant proportion in my book, albeit of a very small sample. Are they worth many of me? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if they believe they are, particularly after about 11am.

For the avoidance of doubt, and because some of you seem intent on putting words into my mouth, let me spell this out. The fact that there are a couple of Scottish drunks who I see on a fairly regular basis does not lead me to conclude anything about the Scots as a race. I've met plenty of other Scots, and I'm fairly sure that one or two of them aren't drunks! However, some of the responses here lead me to conclude that anything resembling a sense of humour is lacking in some quarters.

[ibrox]

Glad to hear you don't stereotype people it's just in my experience scotsman are always thought of as p##heads, I was making the point we are not all like that.

Well, not all the time ;D

[ibm59]

clydebuilt said:

ibm59 said:

Were you running from theWest of Shetland Schiehallion and Foinavon FPSO's ibm59.


You mentioned the North Sea's decline, to be honest they are still managing to eek out every last drop and new technology is helping.

Nope . Loading at SV for discharge at other European ports of great scenic beauty.
I've been all over the place but nothing comes close to DRIFTING off SV waiting for a berth.
Bullseye on "the last drop"

[macd]

ibrox said:

Glad to hear you don't stereotype people it's just in my experience scotsman are always thought of as p##heads, I was making the point we are not all like that.

Well, not all the time ;D

eg last weekend after boydy and charlie boy stuck it up the sellick

hic.

[ibrox]

As you know ( R ) i was there but can't remember much hic

i heard it was a good gubbing they got though ;D ;D

[ibm59]

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For the avoidance of doubt, and because some of you seem intent on putting words into my mouth, let me spell this out. The fact that there are a couple of Scottish drunks who I see on a fairly regular basis does not lead me to conclude anything about the Scots as a race. I've met plenty of other Scots, and I'm fairly sure that one or two of them aren't drunks! However, some of the responses here lead me to conclude that anything resembling a sense of humour is lacking in some quarters.[/quote]

Precisely the type of drivel that makes me think that home rule for Southlings might not be a bad idea after all.
And I do have a reasonably well developed sense of humour. Fishing mainly the Leven and Garnock leaves me with no other option.

[akflyrod]

albyn73 i did not say alaska was a seperate state ---- but we do run our own state, and we get a pfd every year just for living there (permenent fund dividend) about $2000 all from oil fishing and the tourist, and since you dont know,
william seward bought alaska in 1867 for $7.200.000 any thing else you want to know?

[child of the mist]

charlieh stereotyping again. I said should we deport unemployable to England,Then went on to say THIS IS NOT THE INDEPANDANT SCOTLAND I WANT AND HOPE FOR. After indendance I would hope we would look after or own. Anyway living in most parts of England would drive anyone to drink. One possible reason we don't see many English drunks north of the border is that they are so tight they wouldn't spend Christmas

[akflyrod]

;D ;D ;D

[para1]

On a lighter note, I heard this in the pub the other day.
There apparently was a survey on sperm donors taken in the UK.
The lad in the pub (who is English and a mate btw) said that there was only 11 sperm donors in Scotland but 1000s in England.
Somebody piped up "Do you mean there are only 11 wa***rs in Scotland, but 1000s in England". ;D
I have never seen him speechless before .

[ibm59]

Careful , P1.
Remember what happened the last time I used the "W" word in a post!!!!

[ibrox]

A speechless Englishman, now that's a rare occurence .

;D ;D ;D

[hornet]

;D ;D

[akflyrod]

;D ;D

[skippersam]

I realize that the thread might be finished but I have to comment on "Scottish oil and gas"I have worked in this industry for 20 years and can I point out that most of the oil and gas is from Orkney and Shetland waters, and i dare any of you Scots to tell an Orcadian or Shetlander that they are Scottish to there faces,my experience of the natives from these nations is that they would rather draw no breath than be tarred with the Scottish brush.Maybe a direct question to Mr Salmond re ownership of oil and gas would put a different perspective to the scots natural treasures.Come on Mr Salmond "let your people know"

[ibrox]

Orkney/Shetland SCOTTISH!!!