Sunday Fishing

[sinkingtip]

Well said gentlemen . At least forums such as this facilitate debate and an exchange of opinion as one would expect and welcome. Much better when this happens as opposed to having a cheap and unwarranted 'dig' at someone or making out like their opinion is sacrosanct and without question....you see.....we can all get on chaps ;D !!

However ( Exerod + Greenbanks).......half day / whole day off ?? Who cares ? - not the Ghillie I would imagine. He (or she - trying to be PC here) as I have stated in my earlier post, would consider a "day off" to constitute a day when he / she does not have the onerous responsibility of organising a fishing party, trying to get them on the end of fish, walking the length of the beat at least 4 times during the course of a day (which based on beats being an average of 1.5 miles would equate to six miles !!), and generally having to put up with a percentage of unsolicited 'crap' from fishers (sorry guys but it happens), poachers, dog walkers and general passers by. How a ghillie wishes to spend his Sunday is entirely up to him - whether that involves spending the day with his family on the water (or not), lying comatose in his 'scratcher' (been there), getting up about 11am - screaming at the wife and bairns then going out to watch the Mighty Celtic perform, doing the weekly Tesco 'thing', socialising with other Ghillies (exchanging views and going over recent 'events'), flogging 'left behind' tackle at a boot sale (of course, having made several attempts to identify the owners)...........OR spending a leisurely day on the river 'pottering' around the hut for a couple of hours.......... - if the "pottering" option is the one that he subscribes to then that would be his choice and would still be considered "a day off" by most, if not all, Ghillies....in my opinion .
Having said that !!!........... (radical stuff on its way her lads) a ghillies job is actually (and always has been)..... 24/7 !!. Surely you cant disagree with that (" we can" I hear you all scream !!). At the hut pottering, shouting dogs abuse at a television screen in a boozer or simply in the 'land of nod'. If the 'phone call' comes he has to be there - dead of night - river flooding - hut alarm blaring -'punters 'chapping' at your door "looking for troot tickets" - or worst of all just as Songs of Praise is starting (particularly annoying to some Ghillies I know and especially if Aled Jones - apparently his father couldnt spell Allan - is about to launch into the first rousing chorus of Jerusalem, reading the bed time story to the kids or getting ready to make love to his beautiful wife - the list is endless.........if 'that' call comes then he 'shifts' - 24/7. And NO - the wife and bairns don't get paid in coinage of the realm - 'payment' is received via a far richer reward than 'filthy lucre' - that of love, togetherness and the upholdance of family values . Remember also that Sundays' can resemble, for a Ghillie, the hellish experience you or I might encounter should we have the grave misfortune to work in a 'call center' - the amount of phone calls that Ghillies receive regarding "fishing matters" is substantial and time consuming (fact) - and sure as fate - just as Nakamura is lining up to take a glorious free kick the phone will go and next thing you know you have spent 20 minutes on the blower to 'someone about something' - you miss the goal and your 'mucker' from the beat above you has downed your pint and stolen your 'special gal' !!
I agree with Springer - this post has moved on from its original goal (sorry - still thinking about Nakamura and that free kick !! Whoaaah !!) and possibly I am as much to blame for that as any of us. Apologies. Said my 'bit' - need to go and do a 'hands turn' now (work). Regards and best wishes to all as usual. Let us move on now - upwards / onwards and as a united force

[macd]

phew

glad you got all that out.......

I think you are misunderstanding the nature of the forum. Just as you are able to express your view, so too are those who have rubbed you up the wrong way- they are entitled to comment as they see fit. Lighten up.

Ask yourself, 'is there anything i have posted that might be riduculed?' Would save all concerned a bit of grief.

[guay]

well said macd....sinkingtip does prattle on!!!!

[exerod]

Sinkingtip,

One man's dig is another man's banter
So lighten up you flaming ranter



I actually quite enjoy your "prattling" posts, keep them coming
Also, there is nothing wrong with a thread going off topic!

Tight lines.

Andy

[sinkingtip]

Nuff said gents - like I say "onwards and upwards". Respect Exerod . Macd - I understand the nature of this forum fully and have never intentionally or knowingly castigated anyone for their views (believe it or not). Willing to take your well intentioned advice and, in future, embark upon a strict programme of 'inner analysis bordering on self flagellation' whilst employing due consideration regarding the content and 'delivery' of future posts and the probable ridicule that my posts may evoke from others..... and how this might be avoided to the satisfaction of all - thank you for that advice - very helpful .

Guay - will give you a bit of a spanking later .

Must dash - got my weekly appointment with my 'anger management' councilor / personal trainer. If anyone needs to "lighten up" then maybe we should all heed this splendid 'advice'........there I go again !!!

[macd]

Wow!


Thanks for underlining the important bits.

[sinkingtip]

Respect Macd. Maybe we can work together and under the guidance and tutelage of posters such as yourself, Sloggi, Fruin and Wullie I too might become a valuable and meaningful addition to this forum and attain '5 star' status one day - a situation which, unfortunately, at present I can only dream about........and contrary to how you might interpret this I do actually mean it.

[Fruin]

Hey, don't bring me onto this one!!! ;D

[macd]

that was a quick visit to the anger managment guy. You two fall out?

[sinkingtip]

Very good !!! ;D ;D ;D. Almost "put a smile on me face". Fruin - like it or not, I now consider you to be the cyber equivalent of 'blood'. Total respect my good fellow . Must go and do a bit of work now chaps - lets end it here and move on to our next 'load' - will look forward to it !!

[macd]

;D

[sinkingtip]

Hi Springer - good kip I hope ?. I agree with all that you say in terms of what 'we' want to get out of this forum and feel that my posts do, indeed, disseminate information, contain "banter", "wit" (whit - whit like min ??), "technical know how" (have you taken the trouble to read any of my other posts??) and, as you do, "gain and share in return with others". If my 'style' of writing causes you to have to take to your bed on a Friday afternoon at 4pm (approx) then I am either to be congratulated or chastised - I don't really mind which. "When will it all stop" ??......."the bells, the bells. the bells Esmerelda".......NEVER !! - as long as we live in a democratic society with the right to freedom of speech FOR ALL and in whatever manner of 'delivery' or text font we wish then that, my dear friend, is how it shall remain ;D. Are you a 'Weekly News' reader by any chance ?? As for "telling" you, or any other forum members come to that, what to do or how to do it then you simply misunderstand me (probably more my fault than yours ). I was simply giving my opinion / viewpoint. If my 'tone' was misconstrued as being "lectured like I am still at school" then please accept my most humble of apologies as this was never my intention and I baulk at the very thought that some of my readers (sorry- forum members) might feel this - a wee cup of tea and a bit of toast now that you are awake ? - you will feel much better for it !!. Point taken and noted. Kindest regards to all 'Geordies' and 'Makkers'. Sink a 'newkie broon' for me bonnie lad.......see !! - I can "lighten up" - maybe we can embark on this voyage of self discovery together. ...."thats the 'bell' gone now - move quickly and quietly to your next class - YOU BOY - walk....dont run !! "

[ceilidh]

Sinkingtip,(alias, perhaps )
A wee bit '0ff Topic' is often interesting and entertaining, but this thread (about Sunday Fishing, remember?) has now become almost exclusively devoted to your reasons and justifications for favouring us with your contributions to this Forum and how we should behave when responding to them.
Please give a thought to those of us who live in areas where broadband is still just a promise and who have to wait, with baited breath, to download your next lengthy lecture!, if only to enjoy your doubtful attempts at self deprecation.
It would appear, from your compulsive wish to reply to each post, that you always need to have the last word, so would it be too much to hope that, at least in so far as this topic is concerned, your reply will be the last?

[greenbanks]

sinkingtip said:

Well said gentlemen . At least forums such as this facilitate debate and an exchange of opinion as one would expect and welcome. Much better when this happens as opposed to having a cheap and unwarranted 'dig' at someone or making out like their opinion is sacrosanct and without question....you see.....we can all get on chaps ;D !!

However ( Exerod + Greenbanks).......half day / whole day off ?? Who cares ? - not the Ghillie I would imagine. He (or she - trying to be PC here) as I have stated in my earlier post, would consider a "day off" to constitute a day when he / she does not have the onerous responsibility of organising a fishing party, trying to get them on the end of fish, walking the length of the beat at least 4 times during the course of a day (which based on beats being an average of 1.5 miles would equate to six miles !!), and generally having to put up with a percentage of unsolicited 'crap' from fishers (sorry guys but it happens), poachers, dog walkers and general passers by. How a ghillie wishes to spend his Sunday is entirely up to him - whether that involves spending the day with his family on the water (or not), lying comatose in his 'scratcher' (been there), getting up about 11am - screaming at the wife and bairns then going out to watch the Mighty Celtic perform, doing the weekly Tesco 'thing', socialising with other Ghillies (exchanging views and going over recent 'events'), flogging 'left behind' tackle at a boot sale (of course, having made several attempts to identify the owners)...........OR spending a leisurely day on the river 'pottering' around the hut for a couple of hours.......... - if the "pottering" option is the one that he subscribes to then that would be his choice and would still be considered "a day off" by most, if not all, Ghillies....in my opinion .
Having said that !!!........... (radical stuff on its way her lads) a ghillies job is actually (and always has been)..... 24/7 !!. Surely you cant disagree with that (" we can" I hear you all scream !!). At the hut pottering, shouting dogs abuse at a television screen in a boozer or simply in the 'land of nod'. If the 'phone call' comes he has to be there - dead of night - river flooding - hut alarm blaring -'punters 'chapping' at your door "looking for troot tickets" - or worst of all just as Songs of Praise is starting (particularly annoying to some Ghillies I know and especially if Aled Jones - apparently his father couldnt spell Allan - is about to launch into the first rousing chorus of Jerusalem, reading the bed time story to the kids or getting ready to make love to his beautiful wife - the list is endless.........if 'that' call comes then he 'shifts' - 24/7. And NO - the wife and bairns don't get paid in coinage of the realm - 'payment' is received via a far richer reward than 'filthy lucre' - that of love, togetherness and the upholdance of family values . Remember also that Sundays' can resemble, for a Ghillie, the hellish experience you or I might encounter should we have the grave misfortune to work in a 'call center' - the amount of phone calls that Ghillies receive regarding "fishing matters" is substantial and time consuming (fact) - and sure as fate - just as Nakamura is lining up to take a glorious free kick the phone will go and next thing you know you have spent 20 minutes on the blower to 'someone about something' - you miss the goal and your 'mucker' from the beat above you has downed your pint and stolen your 'special gal' !!
I agree with Springer - this post has moved on from its original goal (sorry - still thinking about Nakamura and that free kick !! Whoaaah !!) and possibly I am as much to blame for that as any of us. Apologies. Said my 'bit' - need to go and do a 'hands turn' now (work). Regards and best wishes to all as usual. Let us move on now - upwards / onwards and as a united force

Would imagine your missus loves it when you go fishing.

[sinkingtip]

"....so would it be too much to hope that at least in so far as this topic is concerned, that your reply will be the last" - sorry folks havent managed to 'crack the code' for "quotes" yet ...... It certainly wouldn't be ceilidh - quite happy to move on to 'un-charted territory' and future 'topics' as I clearly stated in at least two previous posts. However, I cant just take a back seat and guarantee NOT to have an opinion can I ? - that would be foolish and denying one's human rights . By "opinion" I mean that I write something which is relevant, informative and totally from MY point of view whilst respecting the views of others - fair enough ? Obviously I would expect, as always, others to contribute their opinions and view points thus facilitating 'debate' - yes ?? .............that is what this forum is about.........no ?? But what I CAN guarantee you is that should I contribute, and contribute I shall, I shall try really hard to A) "To not knowingly cause offense to anyone "other than by rod and line". B) "Leave at any time (on request) any forum discussions which I am not permitted to be party to". C) "Employ the same courtesy's to my fellow angler / poster as I would have them bestow on me". D) "Knowing that I am 'fishing a 6 rod beat' endeavor to keep the length my posts down to 'single rod' proportions".......gotcha !!.

Regarding the missus - she actually 'proofs' this for me but, I have to confess, of late it has been driving her bananas as you would expect . She's out tonight at a sumo cheese and wine party.... sort of thing (the hussy) so I can 'do a bit' in the meantime unhindered. But yes......chances are that she will insist that I 'knock it on the head' before she gets totally hacked off or I get bored.......whatever comes soonest . I'll tell her you were asking after her general wellbeing. Appreciated ! (no, seriously). Anyhow..........that's that . Fishing tomorrow - might even be your beat or river - who know's but if you overhear an "opinionated prattler" or anyone showing symptoms of mild turets / verbal diahoreah (spell check) then you'll ken its me !! Respect. ;D .............let's talk fishing now

[williegunn]

I have just deleted the last 2 posts, the first as it was not helpfull to the discussion, the second then became redundant.

[Fruin]

That is good news WG. I read the first post earlier, but refrained from commenting again.

[macd]

go get 'em malcolm.......

[ibrox]

I have no problem with that WG

Keep up the good work

Mike

[albyn73]

I hate to say it fellow anglers, but that is why you have no sunday fishing, but when we can all get round the "Church of Scotland and their moderator's" we will never have sunday fishing in Scotland. On the" River Finn " where they have seven day fishing, on the Cloghan beat monday is a very popular day, more so at the Ivy Bridge and other stretches. A lot of them are from Belfast, last year they were paying 20euro's per/hour to fish the ivy bridge...