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Post by flybox on Jul 17, 2006 8:01:30 GMT
It's not easy at the moment, so I took down Falkus on Salmon for some inspiration. Two techniques that I can be sure nobody else will have tried sprung out at me. I just wondered what the etiquette was... will I be thrown off the river?
1. General Practitioner. This was invented to be fished like a shrimp on a fly-only river in a pool that could realistically only be fished with a shrimp. So the GP looks like a shrimp. Is it therefre OK to fish it like a shrimp? Falkus describes spotting a fish in low water, and (with the help of a second fisherman to watch what is going on) putting the shrimp on the bottom, just under and behind the fish. After a minute or so, he suggests that the fish will spot the interloper and attack it.
Will my lead-weighted GP have me thrown off?
2. Yellow dolly. He suggests a tiny yellow dolly, fished dry, if small wet flies aren't catching. Will upstream casting have me sent home?
Thanks, FB
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Post by williegunn on Jul 17, 2006 8:03:48 GMT
I have fished the Yellow Dolly without any great success but traditional methods also failed. Basically a wake fly, also works fished down and across.
Just take care the salmon attacks the GP and not the other way about
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Post by flybox on Jul 17, 2006 8:15:31 GMT
So do you think a yellow dolly would be best as a dropper? By 'no great success' I presume you have caught SOMETHING on it.
I'm not looking to foul hook the salmon, if that's what you mean! An undressed 4" hook is cheaper than a GP....
But you wouldn't see anything wrong with using the GP like a prawn? If nothing else, it'll while away some otherwise probably fruitless time.
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Post by williegunn on Jul 17, 2006 8:22:10 GMT
No great success.......follows, splashes but nothing landed.
Dropper no it is a speciallist technique stalking the salmon then casting to them.
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Post by flybox on Jul 17, 2006 8:26:19 GMT
Falkus would say that if you were getting follows you should have carried on casting to the same fish until he took it. No matter how many hours it took. Not so good if you've got a queu of others after your pool.
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Post by hadrian on Jul 17, 2006 11:04:26 GMT
i have had good success with the g.p this season(relatively speaking),fished blind,step and cast. dropping a g.p in front, behind, alongside or underneath for an hour and a day weather theres anyone waiting or not is not fly fishing.im not saying you should be executed or anything like that(yet), but if you were fishing on fly only water i think this method shouldnt be classed as fly fishing.
not to long ago a friend of mine explained the way he used to spin a prawn on a spinning rod,he said it was deadly.it got me thinking,what if i use a small, light, strong plastic swivel,a size 4 or so g.p, dressed in a way that would make it turn or spin slowly in low slow water.i didnt try it,the use of the swivel for me would have meant crossing the line so to speak.would i have caught more fish?,maybe,but the pleasure i have had since trying to develop my technique has given me hours and hours of enjoyment.
hadrian.
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Post by flybox on Jul 20, 2006 12:02:40 GMT
The swivvel is an old trick. Hardy's sold flies with propellors in the 1920s - it may go back further than that. That probably pushes beyond the boundaries of fly fishing.
But it is interesting what you say about using a GP... one of few salmon 'flies' that is actually an imitative pattern. When did you last see a hatch of Willie Gunns (with apologies to the real Mr Gunn (although I thought he was dead)? The GP is imitative, admittedly, not of a fly, but a prawn. But the moment it is suggested that it should be fished in such a way as to imitate a prawn - the way one might fish a prawn - people begin to have doubts. Fished like an ordinary wet fly - so imitative of nothing at all, for when did you last see a prawn swimming in an arc towards the top of the water?
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