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Post by Sloggi on Jul 1, 2007 17:39:26 GMT
Attempting to continue the "tactics" threads and trying to be topical, I'd pose the following: As we are not suffering a lack of water yet this season, what tactics are you using when you arrive at your long-booked beat expecting "summer-low" and facing 2' 6" above summer-low on the gauge (peat-stained/dark/hot choc/clear)? Are you rummaging around your boot looking for that 15' rod and small brass tube flies? I leave it at that and let inspiration commence...  |
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Post by salmonking on Jul 1, 2007 18:18:25 GMT
This will be a good thread,,,,,As I'm fishing a spate river at the moment,my best days have been when the water has bee n 2ft and above,some locals say thats too high, with a heavy dark
beer color,I'm armed with 13ft rod,floating line with various 10ft polytips,,usually intermediate,,and a junction shrimp copper tube
3/4,,to 1 1/2 ,i fish the runs as normal but find the best taking spots are the quieter water or the glides at pool tail,even on the lip of the next run,usually fishing the tube right under the near bank,using upstream mends,followed by downstream mends,as it swings directly below me,expecting a take at any moment.
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Post by hornet on Jul 1, 2007 21:12:15 GMT
I have started off with a clear sinktip / floater, 5ft of leader and usually a inch tube. In the evening i change over to my wet 2 and fish one of your size 9's and bingo  . There seems to be more fish at the tail end of the pools aswell for some strange reason. Cheers, Hornet |
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Post by colliedog on Jul 1, 2007 22:00:32 GMT
The point that was made in the recent thread spate river vs lough fed made what I think was a good point suggesting that the more peat or colour a river normally carries, the quicker it will come back into play after a big spate - hence Highland rivers often start to fish almost as soon as they start to fall.
If the water is high but clear, I will fish with a largish fly (6-8) or a small tube on an intermediate tip - favourite patterns being junction shrimp, an orange/red version of the cascade or a distinctly yellow version of a gold bodied WG.
I have come to realise that sediment coloured itself doesnt always stop fish from taking. The problem is that for there to be any chance of them taking, they need to see the fly. You can go down with sinkers and tubes but this is no guarantee as the light down there will be poor. I now try to maximise the chance of a fish seeing my fly and perhaps taking it - If the water clarity is 18 - 24in then a fish lying in 4-5' of water isn't likely to see a fly anywhere near the surface. However if the fish is lying in shallowof water there is a much better chance of him seeing the fly and maybe taking it. Therefore I concentrate on any shallow water that may hold a fish - necks and streams and thin riffles that might get ignored in lower water but will sometimes hold a fish in higher water. It sometimes works and can make for heart stopping moments as you realise that it's not the best place to hook one. Seatrout in particular can lose there inhibitions in these conditions and can be caught in water that only just covers their backs.
Regards
CD
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Post by Bogyoch on Jul 3, 2007 9:08:19 GMT
18"-24" of clarity......luxury! When the Deveron is grim, then 6"-12" of clarity is all you'll get. However, a large yellow piggy on a sunk line might tempt a seatrout, as it did with two this morning. And that's with 3 feet on the gauge.
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Post by colliedog on Jul 3, 2007 12:34:51 GMT
Well done Richard - just show - if you're not fishing, you'll not catch anything!
CD
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Post by castlikeaghille on Jul 3, 2007 16:04:51 GMT
Well done Richard - just show - if you're not fishing, you'll not catch anything! CD Unless you are the Don and it's a Saturday in the World's most productive salmon pool  ......  |
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Post by greenbanks on Jul 3, 2007 20:52:10 GMT
Whatever happened to the Allys shrimp. Oh Ye of short memory  |
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Post by macd on Jul 4, 2007 17:13:33 GMT
Got a grilse today on the dee in high water. Monteith 15' fast sink tip and a 11/2" gold WG conehead. ;D
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Post by easky on Jul 4, 2007 20:35:25 GMT
well done Ross, good to see you have got out again and into some action |
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I'd like to help you out. Which way did you come in?
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Post by flee on Jul 8, 2007 22:16:49 GMT
I'm getting quite frustrated with the high water conditions, don,t get me wrong it,s good for the fish but I've only just learned where they lie in lower water and now they are just swimming right past and on upstream .I have had a few on and a few pulls but can never seem to land them. Probably down to my own foolishness but we all have to learn I suppose.
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Post by fenton on Jul 8, 2007 22:20:32 GMT
Got a grilse today on the dee in high water. Monteith 15' fast sink tip and a 11/2" gold WG conehead. ;D I have just spent a couple of hours making my first attempts at coneheads. Any chance of a pic please macd so that I may see what I am aiming for?! cheers F |
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Post by macd on Jul 8, 2007 23:12:54 GMT
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Post by splash on Jul 9, 2007 5:26:51 GMT
What's the reel in the photo MacD, Scientific Anglers Mastery10/11?
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Post by macd on Jul 9, 2007 15:31:45 GMT
a hardy viscount III LA10/11
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Post by fenton on Jul 9, 2007 18:28:58 GMT
Thanks for taking the time to reply Ross, very useful.
I am struggling to get my cone to sit tightly on the head of the fly. I guess that I am tying a head that is both too bulky and long.
Perhaps I should start a step by step on how not to tie flies!
I'll keep practising,
Cheers
F
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Post by macd on Jul 9, 2007 19:50:26 GMT
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Post by Sloggi on Jul 9, 2007 19:54:06 GMT
a hardy viscount III LA10/11 Good, solid, and hard working reels - I have a couple of 9/10 versions. |
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Post by macd on Jul 10, 2007 11:01:19 GMT
they make a great sound
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Post by macd on Jul 10, 2007 16:56:01 GMT
Fenton the willie gunn cone i was using last week- pretty isnt it It was originally tied as a normal tube. I removed the liner, and added a new one and slid the cone down and burred the end.  |
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