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Post by tyneandrew on Apr 22, 2007 20:51:35 GMT
For each month i (a friend to be honest) has calculated the top three most productive beats on the Dee for each month on a rod/catch average basis...........results:
February
1. Lower Crathes
2. Ballogie
3. Lower Blackhall
March
1. Lower Crathes
2. Middle Blackhall
3. Crathes
April
1. Lower Crathes
2. Kincardine
3. Lower Invercauld
May
1. Lower Invercauld
2. Carlogie
3. Lower Crathes
June
1. Banchory
2. Aboyne Water
3. Aboyne Castle
July
1. Banchory
2. Lower Crathes
3. Aboyne Castle
August
1. Carlogie
2. Upper Dess
3. Middle Drum
September
1. Aboyne Castle
2. Lower Crathes
3. Lower Invercauld
And for the season...................drum roll:
1. Lower Crathes
2. Banchory
3. Aboyne Castle
If anyone would like to know how any Dee beat performs in relation to others for a given month i can tell you.
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Post by tyneandrew on Apr 22, 2007 21:07:01 GMT
Are Lower Invercauld reporting this sseason?
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Post by Sloggi on Apr 22, 2007 21:27:25 GMT
Are Lower Invercauld reporting this sseason? Ian M has been unwell so reporting may not be a high priority at the moment. What formula was used for the calculations? |
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Post by Sloggi on Apr 22, 2007 21:30:48 GMT
If it's on numbers of fish then you're incorrect as I caught more fish on Kincausie during the last two weeks of September than Aboyne Castle reported for the month  |
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Post by tyneandrew on Apr 22, 2007 21:35:08 GMT
I don't have stats for that beat i'm afraid - fishdee subscribers only.
Month total / number of rods fishing.
Nothing i can do about "the beats might not be fully let" - i am sure the top beats will be fully let though (i.e. the one's that make the top third for each month)
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Post by Sloggi on Apr 22, 2007 21:45:24 GMT
I don't have stats for that beat i'm afraid - fishdee subscribers only. Month total / number of rods fishing. Nothing i can do about "the beats might not be fully let" - i am sure the top beats will be fully let though (i.e. the one's that make the top third for each month) Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps the thread's title should reflect it's only FishDee subscribers. Re: Lets Most beats are fully booked these days so that should not affect your averages. Would be interesting to include average daily rod cost - see where the true value is... |
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Post by say on May 2, 2007 20:31:32 GMT
Interesting to read that two of the 'productive' beats are upper river beats. I assume that fish quality has not been taken into consideration. Personally fishing for 'old' springers doesn't take my fancy and I'm sure the vast majority caught in September have been in there a while
LCWD is no surprise and arguably the best beat on the Dee for a per fish / per rod basis. Although at around £300 for days fishing I would prefer to take my chances on the less expensive/prestigous beats.
All in all a very interesting read and surprised that Park didn't get a mention. Although this is probably due to the fact that it has the potential to fish 11 rods.
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Post by Sloggi on May 2, 2007 20:56:13 GMT
Park - 11 rods x 6 days = 66 a week x 4 weeks = 264 x 8 months = 2112 rod days a season for approximately 600 fish. This is about 1 fish to every 3.41 rods. That tells a story. Simplistic, I know, but it paints a sobering picture when Park is one of the places most would choose to go if cost/bookings were not an issue.
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Post by say on May 2, 2007 21:12:00 GMT
However if you do the same maths for Park in September then the count will be much better, especially in recent years
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Post by Sloggi on May 2, 2007 21:20:37 GMT
However if you do the same maths for Park in September then the count will be much better, especially in recent years As it is on all rivers in September. If you need £341 (3.41 rod days @ an average of £100) to have a fish on Park, then I'll take one of the lesser beats for example, season ticket on Kingcausie for £350 (@ £10 a fish for me last season ). Oh, but I forgot - Park has a nice fishing hut ;D I don't mean to diss Park. If I was to do that to a Dee beat, I start with LCWD @ £300 a day - someone's having a laugh  |
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Post by say on May 2, 2007 21:39:24 GMT
Fair comment and Kincausie possibly wins hands down for the cost per fish, although the ADAA water will push it a close second.
Nice huts are of no importance, if your fishing you shouldn't be in there IMO.
Like yourself I fish the 'lesser' beats which are often overlooked and give 'real' value for money
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Post by Sloggi on May 2, 2007 21:43:25 GMT
Nice huts are of no importance, if your fishing you shouldn't be in there IMO. Agreed. Just what I said in the "Best Fishing Hut " thread. |
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Post by colliedog on May 3, 2007 16:27:31 GMT
It very much pays to look beyond the monthly catches because they don't always tell the full story.
I have been very lucky to have fished Park in March and September weeks over the past few years so I'll use it as an example - many other beats and other rivers show similar trends.
In March, Park is a productive spring beat with a 5 year averages of 55 fish. There tends to be a big difference however in the catches in week 1/2 compared to weeks 3/4. generally the latter weeks considereably outscore the early weeks (although there are exceptions). This is not immediately obvious from the monthly returns. You will get a lot more bang for your buck later in the month over the longer term.
Similar patterns occur on many rivers in August where the bulk of the fish may be caught early in the month (grilse) or later in the month (early autumn fish). Also in September on later running rivers.
The main point here is that without making enquiries, those booking fishing based on monthly returns may well end up disapointed.
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