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Post by granters on Oct 14, 2007 20:16:29 GMT
After much umming and arring I'm gonna take the plunge and acquire myself a 16 footer for next season. I want the rod for the bigger rivers i intend to visit more next year, Tay, Spey etc for sunken lines. been using a 14ft Lpxe this season and am used to the action but the rod really is only good for floating lines.
Anyway, will i need to teach myself to cast again with a bigger, heavier rod? What are my options so i can at least narrow down the search a little?
Cheers
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Post by ibm59 on Oct 14, 2007 20:42:50 GMT
You have a pm.
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Post by castslikeaghille on Oct 15, 2007 10:05:02 GMT
After much umming and arring I'm gonna take the plunge and acquire myself a 16 footer for next season. I want the rod for the bigger rivers i intend to visit more next year, Tay, Spey etc for sunken lines. been using a 14ft Lpxe this season and am used to the action but the rod really is only good for floating lines. Anyway, will i need to teach myself to cast again with a bigger, heavier rod? What are my options so i can at least narrow down the search a little? Cheers Some food for thought. Arm n' a leg at Game Fish in Edinburgh has an ex-demo Sage 16' # 10 Euro for £345 with full warranty. I used one for 5 years and I doubt you will get a better 16' rod for that kind of money (RRP was £710). It will do everything you want on big rivers and more. However, it is quite a jump from 14' to 16'. You won't need to teach your self to cast again, but you will have to change your timing. Also, a Sage 16' (or any 16 footer) can/should lift a lot more line than a 14' Guideline which means if you are using spey lines you will probably need something with a longer head profile. Good luck CLaG
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Post by madkeen on Oct 15, 2007 19:45:59 GMT
I've got a 16ft b+w powerlite 9/10 has more than enough beef for any sinking line/fine for shooting heads and finesse for floating line grilse work. The norway is the cheaper version but just as good a rod. Try purely fly fishing for the best prices on bruce and walker if interested.
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Post by rennie on Oct 15, 2007 20:01:33 GMT
2nd vote of confidence for the B+W Powerlite Spey in 16ft 9/10.It will fish 10/11 Spey lines from float to ultra fast sink with total ease or full dt11s if thats your bag.The Norway in 16ft 9/10 is similar,its cheaper has a faster action and a lessor cosmetic finish.Both are very good rods.The Powerlite is a more subtle and sophisticated weapon,I have both and wouldn't swap either.Pedro.
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Post by granters on Oct 15, 2007 22:00:55 GMT
Thanks chappies, excellent food for thought there. Already had a Norway in the back of my mind after hearing so much about them. Be interesting to start using longer lines too.
Cheers
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Post by blackboar on Oct 19, 2007 17:12:35 GMT
I would recommend the Loomis 16' Greased line . Awesome rod. Feels like a 15 in the hand too.
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Post by tweedbunnet on Oct 20, 2007 18:23:24 GMT
When you use a heacy sunk line for Salmon, it is essential to roll cast the line before moving on to your next cast (whether its a Spey or Overhead - you don't say). You will probably use a bigger fly and heavier and shorter (18-25lb) leader of 4-5ft rather than a 9-12 ft leader. If you are going for a bigger river like the Tay or Spey, you might well be fishing from a boat as opposed to wading up to your bellybutton. So taking the above into account, the basic answer is will you use a DT or a modified WF/Spey Line.
Let me declare my preference for Daiwa (I am a Scot, after all) - I fish the upper Tweed and Daiwa rods in the 16ft AFTM 10-12 suit me as the match the DT11 lines I use such as the WetCell II and a Cortland DT11 Floater etc. I am currently using the Altmor and previously used a CF98 16 footer. Save your money for the best Beat you can afford by looking for a Daiwa as their slightly slower action suits the Sunk Line Style. I have not seen many guys using lighter lines on rod of this length but they would probably lift 25 yds of a DT sinker (after roll cast) without any effort at all. And fishing with a 16 footer should be effortless or you really are sunk!
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Post by ibm59 on Oct 21, 2007 19:34:31 GMT
Let me declare my preference for Daiwa - Daiwa rods in the 16ft AFTM 10-12 suit me . I am currently using the Altmor . Save your money for the best Beat you can afford by looking for a Daiwa as their slightly slower action suits the Sunk Line Style. Couldn't agree more. If I really have to use a 16' er , the Altmor will cope with anything I want to throw at it / with it. Slower is definitely better when using full sunk lines. Can't comment on shooting heads as I couldn't get on with them trouting never mind nut deep in a fast flowing river. Fast rods ? Invention of Auld Nick.
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Post by salmonscotty16lb on Oct 23, 2007 15:35:57 GMT
i recently got my hands on a daiwa Kevlar tournament 16ft it must be 15years old but looks good as new only used the rod once but its a powerful rod over heading a full intermediate dt. and spey casting 3/4 of the line on my weaker cast the double spey i also threw out my long shooting heads on the grass with no problem. so a tool I'm more than happy with and for under £50 ;D
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