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Post by akflyrod on Jun 25, 2007 21:43:01 GMT
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Post by salmonking on Jun 26, 2007 6:40:50 GMT
Wow,cant believe that boy killed that ,,,its a kipper.
do you lot kill all your fish?
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Post by tyneandrew on Jun 26, 2007 6:56:13 GMT
murderer!
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Post by ibrox on Jun 26, 2007 7:10:09 GMT
Perhaps there was a good reason it was killed, it's a bit much calling the guy a murderer when you don't know the facts
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Post by tyneandrew on Jun 26, 2007 7:17:59 GMT
Only joking - sure there was a good reason
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Post by castlikeaghille on Jun 26, 2007 7:46:05 GMT
On both the Tweed and Solway rivers in autumn a fair proportion of the cock fish colour up to a degree while in brackish water. Hence they enter the river the colour of the above. Don't know for certain, but if you look closely this fish it is relatively light on the underside and the body from where the guy is holding it is firm (right on the milt line). This suggests to me a fish that is relatively good nick and fairly new in the river. Back in the old days when we chapped most fish you'd hang ones like this in the shed overnight and in the morning they were silver! Fish like this were what we used to call a "Smoker" becasue that's where they usually ended up, and damn fine they were to. A true long in the river coloured cock fish would be soft, milty and have a lot of black showing - and still be the same the next day (crap for both cooking or smoking). As for killing fish (and I don't know from the photo if the fish has definitely had a chat with the priest), at the end of the day whether a cock fish is bright silver and liced or coloured like the above the fact that you've chapped it means there is one less spawner regardless. However, if the rules allow you to take fish then it is purely a personal decision (although my views on mindless slaughter of everything have been aired on here before). As long as the fish is killed to eat then so what if it wasn't platinum. It's the people who kill to sell (illegal for good reason) or throw dead coloured cocks and hens on the compost heap who should be called to account. No doubt this one will continue to rumble Regardeth CLaG
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Post by ibm59 on Jun 26, 2007 9:02:17 GMT
Looks like blood on the angler's right hand. Perhaps the fish was bleeding too badly to be returned. Photos never tell the whole story.
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Post by salmonking on Jun 26, 2007 14:50:13 GMT
;D ;D ;D ;D,,,,,,,HANG HIM???
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Post by sinkingtip on Jun 26, 2007 15:28:59 GMT
Well said CLag. One for the pot. At least its not a hen.
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Post by salmonking on Jun 26, 2007 15:34:52 GMT
aYE BUt,,,,what if that kipper did loads of sit ups,before heading into fresh water
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Post by billytheghillie on Jun 26, 2007 19:50:55 GMT
the man in the smokehouse would chase him and quite rightly so. on tweed you would be whipped at dawn if you appeared at the hut with that fish
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Post by splash on Jun 26, 2007 20:18:28 GMT
the man in the smokehouse would chase him and quite rightly so. on tweed you would be whipped at dawn if you appeared at the hut with that fish Aye of course Billy, the old black death works much better on springers and early summer fish so better chap them instead eh? There have probably been more back end 'smokers' like that chapped on the Tweed than on all the other rivers in Scotland combined - do your homework before you post such cack pulease
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Post by castlikeaghille on Jun 26, 2007 20:28:14 GMT
the man in the smokehouse would chase him and quite rightly so. on tweed you would be whipped at dawn if you appeared at the hut with that fish Aaahhh BTG, a response like that, suggests you may have only been active on the Canal post 2000. Such fish were chapped as the norm on beats all over Canalside through the seventies, eighties and late nineties - much like most everywhere else in Scotland. However, I agree the situation is now more responsible on most of the major river systems. As a BTG on the Lower Tweed, what do you say to clients when such fish have sea lice on them - which they do from time to time? Regardez CLaG
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Post by tyneandrew on Jun 26, 2007 20:56:46 GMT
where is akflyrod? Whats the story?
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Post by zephead on Jun 26, 2007 21:25:32 GMT
Reminds me of the dreadful cover of that Crawford Little book with the Nith "turners" caught tinslinging by the Marx Brothers.
I have to say I've seen and killed worse myself back in the bad old good old days on Tweed.At least its firm so the rigor mortis must be in it indicating an above average degree of freshness of flesh if not jaicket.
ZH
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Post by akflyrod on Jun 26, 2007 22:18:08 GMT
i posted the pic its a friend who invited me down last fall, it was last week of season on the annan, the fish was fresh in and i seen fish chapped that were real dark , in comparison to this fish, all the comments and differant views, my only answer is , the guy bought his ticket, he was entitled to keep his fish, which he did, i have fished with him several times and seen him release plenty of fish even silver fresh fish, its done, chapped, eaten,you,ll get over it
clag nice post , nice to here some comments from some who knows what they are talking about cheers gary
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Post by kingfisheryh02nxs on Jun 27, 2007 14:47:41 GMT
To many preachers about if the man wants to keep his fish its up to him,me personlly i haven't kept a salmon for two years but im no better or worse than the guy in the pic. LAY OF WITH THE HOLY THAN THOU attitude.
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Post by ibrox on Jun 27, 2007 16:18:05 GMT
Well said kingfis..........ah bugger it! well said that man.
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Post by sinkingtip on Jun 27, 2007 17:51:35 GMT
AA - ;D ;D ;D .....very good !
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Post by topender on Jun 27, 2007 17:51:43 GMT
I would keep it thats a bar of silver compared to the last one I kept. Well done to him for catching such a fine fish
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