Mikael Frodin Coneheads

[stu47]

try tying your wings with the first section thicker and shorter and the next two longer and thinner bit longer each one ,3/5,1/5,1/5,the thicker first section should help hold the others up,also frodin has a dubbed body which would hold the under wing up a bit

[granters]

i was having a look at the conehead Octopus fly in T & S. It looks like as soon as it gets wet it'll turn into a big coloured lump. I appreciate the thought behind these turbo cones and would love to try some out but it all just smacks slightly of commercialism. If they are such a revolution i wolud love to hear if any members have had any success on them. I went to buy some turbo cones and some FITS tubing last week and promptly pissed myself laughing at the prices. For plastic! So i stuck to my usual plastic tubing and liner and a bag of coneheads, all for under a fiver, the difference unknown to me as i can easily attach the cones to the liner in the same way as the FITS system. And £4.50 for 10 turbo cones? No chance. Please let us know if anyone has success on these, if so i'll shut my gob! Cheers

[tynetraveller]

These flies do turn into a lump, but a tear drop shaped lump with flash and pulsing movement. They are fantastic flies. Whether or not you use the turbo cones, the frodin style templedogs are cracking.

With regard to tail wrapping, the fly should be tied with a large palmered body hackle over the dubbing. This keeps the wing away from the hook and also keeps the fly's volume. You should be able to tie in a very long wing without wrapping issues.

[Sloggi]

Success at last Not a fish yet, but fished with an adapted version today in blustery conditions and did not have the problem. I used a bushier hackle and shortened the underwings so were slighlty shorter than the length of the tube - the last overwing is still longer than the tube. Also trimmed the marabou so it couldn't reach the hook. Pulsed beautifully and looked great. Thanks for advice

One other bit of advice I got was to use Arctic Fox for the one or two underwings to firm up the tying - less of a lump

[stu47]

All you need is a fish or two,think i will make a few to try when the season starts

[stu47]

Got some of these cones today,not to sure after seeing close up,came up with this

[ibrox]

Very nice

[granters]

Ditto here. Looks like a winner to me. Pretty fly that

[stu47]

Thanks for the feedback gents,first one of them,got some movement bit of glitter and contrast in colours,fairly straight forward pattern,try a few more then do a step by step,takes a bit of time and patience

[stu47]

Fix liner in the outer tube by a small cutout in the outer,bind fast take a piece of oval tinsel and tie a few turns for a butt, wind thread about half way,bind in a piece of fine wire tie in flat braid and wind to the butt and back tie in hackle by the tip and dub the body wind the hackle,rib and tie in some flashy stuff

take a piece of fox for underwing,take out the under fur

take another piece of hair,this is temple dog,not as thick but longer,tie in some copper flashy stuff

tie in the roof of the wing thinner again and longer,it looks thicker but its not,try and spread over the top of the main so its not in a narrow strip

tie in some peacock herl

one hackle of guinea fowl and one longer black one

whip finish,varnish,you can put a super glue on after before you put the cone on then it holds it a bit tighter,cut the end of the liner short,then melt it over carefully with a lighter in place

there is no pattern really for it,was just what came to mind and what i had in my box

[stu47]

Hope it gets you fish if you do Graham

[stu47]

Thanks springer,the guinea fowl looks a bit lost in that, up to the first one i made but i think the colour will still come through,should really come to life in the water

Stuart

[Sloggi]

No marabou, Graham? I find the gap behind the disc and the head of the fly looks better when filled with marabou hackles. However, I've found they are more inclined to go lumpy with marabou but that's probably my tying

[stu47]

I think the bigger flowing hackle at the front makes a differance on this type of fly when the cone is pushed snug up to the hackle,made this with marabou after i came across some feathers at the weekend that were not to big

[macd]

Best of luck with these things guys- something less to think about when fly-fishing.

I have had my say on this, but I have to share: I know that dressed MFCs are being sold at £8 and punters must be paying.

There's me being all cynical before

[clyde-rod]

What tubes do you use for tying these?

[macd]

www.grampianfishing.com/

somers have the whole kit.

[tynetraveller]

Marabou is Ok for that front hackle, but it does get messy and tangled. Baby ostrich is much better if you can stomach 50p per feather! ( One feather does one fly!) I would even just use a really big Schlappen feather in preference to marabou- Much neater and still pretty mobile.