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Post by potbelly on Jan 9, 2007 14:33:19 GMT
My first two salmon flies, cascade style. Any hints/tips would be gratefully received before I tie any more. Left hand bucktail, right hand Artic fox. Now for the trebles and some sore fingers.
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Post by macd on Jan 9, 2007 16:13:34 GMT
Look damn good to me.
I prefer finer flashy stuff like micro-flash, particularly when using fox -when looking for max movement in slower flows.
Also, trim flash to different lengths. Maintains the taper of the fly.
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Post by crawfish on Jan 9, 2007 16:13:37 GMT
im not the best tyer and i would fish with either of those flies,well tied, i`ve only one comment that the black wing at the back could be a little denser other than that well done
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Post by potbelly on Jan 9, 2007 16:23:32 GMT
Thanks for the tips, just tried a treble and there is definately 2 points too many.
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Post by granters on Jan 9, 2007 17:45:45 GMT
they look excellent mate. You'll find that the more you tie, the neater they'll become. Salmon don't care about that though i'm sure! I don't know if it's intentional but i like the hackles straight up and down like that, it gives them a bit of resistance in the water and they stand up nice and proud. I think if you sweep them back too far the fly loses all it's shape. well tied mate
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Post by salmonking on Jan 9, 2007 17:52:03 GMT
Yips good effort...they'l take a fish or two.
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Post by stu47 on Jan 9, 2007 17:56:27 GMT
Theres nowt wrong with them,think bucktails better for the tail
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Post by elwyman on Jan 9, 2007 17:57:10 GMT
Your first two - they're as good as the last two I tied, and they will definitely catch fish.
Tail on the LH one could do with more bucktail in it, but that's my personal preference.
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Post by altmor on Jan 9, 2007 18:09:36 GMT
My first two salmon flies, cascade style. You've tied before !! ;D Do you mean these are you're first two cascade style flies, because I think you've got a few hundred under your belt already. Excellently tied Potbelly, as Elwyman has noted, a touch more buck in the tail would give it 10 / 10. Well done.
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Post by potbelly on Jan 9, 2007 18:29:21 GMT
I have only tied trout flies before, just been out and got some doubles and trebles and a bit of fluff to go on them. I'll have to get some Chinese necks, the genetic ones seem a bit stiff. The large head takes some getting used to also. Point noted about tail being too sparse, they can only get better. Thank you.
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elwyman
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Post by elwyman on Jan 9, 2007 18:37:02 GMT
Do you have your own supply of boar's bristles Potbelly? ;D
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Post by altmor on Jan 9, 2007 18:52:55 GMT
Potbelly, I've got a dog, Jack - he's featured on this forum before - he's just seen your avitar and is "slobbering at the chops". I think he fancies a nibble of your left ear. ;D ;D
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Post by potbelly on Jan 10, 2007 12:32:35 GMT
Sorry, Jack cannot nibble on my ears. Just tried one with hackles from Chinese capes, much better. Keep those step by steps and patterns coming................. I have a box to fill. ;D
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Post by macsalmo on Jan 10, 2007 12:38:05 GMT
They look superb flies Potbelly.
I would fish very confidently with all of them. As Springer said, you can only improve them for your own needs the Salmon will be more than happy.
Well done.
Gary
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Post by tynetraveller on Jan 10, 2007 13:21:14 GMT
:)If that last one is only your third, I really am impressed!
Don't bother with fox in the tail, it is a nightmare to fish unless you tie in a foul guard with a loop of mono, and then its not great.
Keep up the good work. Simon
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Post by altmor on Jan 10, 2007 22:06:32 GMT
Sorry, Jack cannot nibble on my ears. What, even if he said your third fly was the best he'd ever seen ? ;D ;D
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Post by altmor on Jan 10, 2007 22:10:48 GMT
Strike that - he's just seen James' "sample wet" above !! Very nice indeed Speyvalley.
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Post by potbelly on Jan 10, 2007 22:16:55 GMT
James, thank you I'll try that tomorrow. Excellent flies, something to aspire to. Altmor, then I'd know he'd be lying and get put in his cage.
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Post by exerod on Jan 11, 2007 10:06:33 GMT
It's interesting to see the different styles of tying that we prefer, horses for courses I suppose.
For the rough and tumble of the small Westcountry spate rivers I would choose Potbelly's first two. Those stiff "sticky out" hackles will catch the current and make the fly dance about. After a day or two of fishing the hackles will be permanently swept back anyway. Speyvalley's elegant fly would collapse to nothing in many of the lies that I fish down here but I'm going to tie some like it for fishing less turbulent waters.
Andy
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Post by Fruin on Jan 11, 2007 20:48:38 GMT
Potbelly,
You are going to be very good at this flytying lark. The third fly is very well tied for a third attempt and better than some I've seen from regular tyers.
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