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Post by Fruin on Mar 22, 2006 11:46:57 GMT
On Saturday I noticed a recurring problem with my casting. When fishing in medium to fast flowing water, everything was fine and I was regularly throwing 100ft and over casts.
However, the minute I was casting from slacker water I really struggled to get a good turnover. The line seemed to be going out nicely and then the last ten to fifteen foot would land in a heap. As is usual in these kind of situations, frustration grew and matters got worse!!!
When my casting starts to go, I can normally slow things down and identify a fault, but I just could not get things right at a particular stretch on Saturday. Does anybody know of a common fault that is amplified when casting from slack water?
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Post by fishingd0 on Mar 22, 2006 13:05:46 GMT
Fruin
A good place to start when you are having problem like this is to reel in a few yards and work at a distance that you can get good turnover, then lengthen your cast a yard at a time when you are getting the hang of it.
It is hard to say what you are doing wrong over a forum, but it could be a few diffirent things.
Are you using a sink tip, intermediate? Was there any wind etc.
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Post by Fruin on Mar 22, 2006 13:19:11 GMT
Gordon,
I had been using a sinking polyleader, but had been all day with no problems until I reached the bottom of the beat in this slack water.
I have to admit, I was using a shooting head (agh, the cheek of it), but it had been flying out all day. Being more used to longer belly lines I was pausing slightly before the forward stroke to ensure that I was anchoring the line. Maybe this has just thrown the timing of my cast out a bit. Back to factory spey lines maybe?
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Post by macd on Mar 22, 2006 14:56:51 GMT
fruin,
some thoughts to consider.
the line sits up better in the faster water and creates more friction for loading.
maybe its sinking a bit if you are casting the same in the slower sections-maybe just enough wreck your casting- try a quicker backcast.
the other trick might be to place the fly further up the stream on the back cast.
macd
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Post by williegunn on Mar 22, 2006 18:17:55 GMT
I would suggest you were loosing the tension that the fast flowing water was giving you ........hence the problem
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Post by Fruin on Mar 22, 2006 18:52:52 GMT
Thanks folks, Malcolm, what would be the best way to ensure that I keep the tension all the way through the cast? I quite often encounter problems when I am casting from a position in slack water. Would it help to put a bit more power in to the d-loop and start the fprward stroke sooner  |
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Post by kercock on Mar 22, 2006 21:27:18 GMT
If it was the Cottage stream you were in,the slacker water is infact the top end of a very strong backwater which in fact not only stops your line but pulls it down because of the nature of the current. Alot of people encounter difficulties there,including rods breaking because of the speed lines can be pulled under,deep. If it was'nt there Garry,,,,,,,,,,,,Sorry I spoke !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Fruin on Mar 22, 2006 21:43:10 GMT
Dennis and Speyvalley,
It was a slight problem in the cottage stream, but more so in the Oak Tree.
I was managing to lift the line but had to slow the lift down in order to do so - maybe that was also slowing my forward stroke down inadvertently. Then again, maybe it was just tiredness after trying to cast into a wind at the top of the beat all morning and some of the afternoon.
Could also have been the whisky at lunchtime ;D
Was it the cottage stream that Owen snapped his B&W in?
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Post by robmason on Mar 22, 2006 22:18:07 GMT
As I see it the slack water prevents the line from straightening as it does in faster flows and this reduces your ability to load the rod efficiently. What I do in this instance is start with an initial roll cast, even if I don't need to bring a sinking line to the surface, but the momentum allows my casting to get back on track.
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Post by Fruin on Mar 23, 2006 16:25:09 GMT
Thanks for all the pointers folks!
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Post by omega45 on Mar 25, 2006 0:53:40 GMT
water tension is a factor, wind and even tiredness ... when leader/tip splashdowns occur ... relax and when ready to recast, aim the target area slightly higher by degrees ... adding tragectory to the cast ... by lowering the tip, the line loses some kinetic energy
worst days ... when wind comes from different angles ... or changes midcast
time to sit and reflect, enjoy the day !
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Post by Fruin on Mar 28, 2006 10:49:53 GMT
I'm sure that B&W will be reasonable about it. It was probably a defect in the blank that slipped though the quality control process.
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Post by kercock on Mar 28, 2006 22:04:43 GMT
If it was one of the B/W rod tubes they are awfully smart. I had one ,no clue as to where it is. probably around the house...................................Irene, what did you do wi my bloody rod tube......................................
When I spoke to them they said the would look out for the rod arriving.
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