elwyman
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Post by elwyman on Mar 26, 2007 21:05:42 GMT
As Michael Evans would say "show them your muscles, not the hair under your arms"!
A lot of people cast with a bowling action on the forward stroke, pushing the rod forward with a straight arm, rather than keeping their elbow bent, pulling in with the left hand, and having a positive stop at 10 o'clock. This is much more efficient and makes the rod do more work.
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Post by williegunn on Mar 26, 2007 21:33:27 GMT
Do you not think that the length of the head and the length of the stroke are conected? A`10 o-clock stop is OK` with a short head but when carrying 75+ a longer stroke is needed.
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Post by elwyman on Mar 26, 2007 21:43:55 GMT
Sounds logical Malcom, but I haven't tried casting a 75' head on my 15' rod.
If you go much past 10 o'clock your rod would be horizontal, which doesn't seem right to me?
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Post by williegunn on Mar 26, 2007 21:47:38 GMT
Think about throwing a dart and a javelin a dart you have an short stroke and quick stop, a javelin long stroke.
Watch a video of Scott Mackenzie or Gordon Armstrong casting.
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Post by williegunn on Mar 26, 2007 21:52:38 GMT
I would say 2 -9 but unless I video myself and watch it is hard, I have been casting for 40 years so I barely think about it.
Top hand is about 65 % i think.
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Post by elwyman on Mar 26, 2007 21:56:56 GMT
............I have been casting for 40 years so I barely think about it. Same here with a singlehander. Only 3+ years with the DH, but it's getting easier each season.
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Post by williegunn on Mar 26, 2007 22:20:58 GMT
Would you say you throw a fairly open loop?, I cant understand how it would be tight with such a follow through? Im no expert, hence the question No you cannot throw long casts with an open loop.
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Post by salmonking on Mar 27, 2007 20:51:24 GMT
Guys,i was told im not ready for using the 75 ft heads yet, do i persevere or return back to a 65ft head?,im keen to keep at it with the longer head.
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Post by salmonking on Mar 27, 2007 21:14:00 GMT
Steve ,i have i,g 65's and carron,s both in floater & intermediates.
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Post by salmonking on Mar 28, 2007 6:45:30 GMT
Who told you that you weren't ready and why not? Are we talking 15' rod and wading to knees? 15 norway, not deep wading,left hand up,(not my strong point) i would norm double spey,but high bank would not allow this,also i was using the intermediate with brass tube,and i really struggled.
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Post by simmo on Mar 28, 2007 8:16:06 GMT
Hi Salmonking,
If you have restricted space behind with a steep bank you will probably be better off with the shorter head for this kind of work.
Don't give up on the long heads though. You don't have to cast/ lift the full head every time. Start by pulling some of the head in & gradually increase the amount of line you are lifting until you get used to it. Its surprising how much of a difference lifting an extra 10' from what you are used to makes.
Regards Graeme
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Post by salmonking on Mar 28, 2007 14:09:10 GMT
Thanks guys,ill perservere...must admit my confidence took a bit of a battering,also its only the second time that ive used the Norway and I'm not comfortable with it hopefully this will improve the more i use it I'm out on the grass tonite as i have another day fishing booked Fri.
col
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