Sunday Fishing

[Sloggi]

Born to fish - made to work... that's life I suppose. However, life would be easier if we could fish on a Sunday.

Before anyone says anything, I'd happily fish without a ghillie. I just want to fish on both of my free days!

Comments?

[granters]

It would make life easier I have to admit. but i think most rivers could do with a rest one day a week. I suppose you could counter that with the fact that Saturdays may not be fished quite so heavily. A ghillie on the Stinchar told me that Monday was usually his favourite day for fishing as the fish seemed to take better, probably due to the fact that the residents had a day free from seeing anglers and having flies thrown at them. It would be interesting to know what more experienced folks than me think. Good post

[kercock]

When netting was on the go,'96 and before ,it was a much favoured Monday. More fish around and rested pools for a day and of course usuall more fish caught.
Give us one day a week off Grant.!

[jan]

have a five day week, no fishing monday and friday - tuesday wednesday thursday and saturday sunday for fishing

stone the heretic!

[madkeen]

Sounds a great idea while were at think the beats should be open 24 hrs like tesco.Dennis you dont need any sleep ;D

[Sloggi]

springer said:

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Intersting thread - perhaps the 200 new members will add to the views there.

I'd happily fish without a ghillie on a Sunday - give him/her a day off to spend their tips

[hornet]

I do agree with resting the river for all of the mentioned reasons but when i think we could fish on a non working day then it makes sense. It may also bring more anglers to the sport. ;D

Moving a rest day from the weekend to a week day sounds good to me.

Can't see it ever happening though.

Hornet

[williegunn]

I await Monrokillers imput or perhaps he had enough discussion last year in T&S

[exerod]

steve said:

I like the idea of maintaining a day off but moving it to midweek. Suspect, generally this idea could be popular South of the border but not to the North side.

Moving the non fishing day to mid week certainly wouldn't be popular this far south of the border with those of us who take weekly lets. With the current arrangement of change over on Sunday we can do all the traveling to and from the north on the weekends. If the change over was moved to mid week we would have to take at least an extra day off work for mid week traveling or miss out on a days fishing.

I might look at it differently if I lived up there though

Andy

[salmonscotty16lb]

like i have posted before my work is 12 days on 2 off and one is a Sunday i would welcome this! also my poor 19 days off not including bank holidays time on river is limited to few hours after work. and fair travel to get decent fishing! ie tay 1 and half hour+ annan 1 and half hour+
i work hard want to fish hard:D

[wilbert]

This must be the only plus to living south of the border. As I have said before people should have the choice to fish / open their fishing on a Sunday or not.

Not every mile of every river gets flogged from dawn till dusk 6 days a week and not every beat has a ghillie so it would not be a complete disaster to allow Sunday fishing.

[kercock]

Wilbert, It may well be for the Salmon ! It does'nt have a choice!

[williegunn]

wilbert said:

it would not be a complete disaster to allow Sunday fishing.

My lawn would look like a jungle though

[trollscot]

I think the no Sunday fishing law should be scrapped, do you remember times when Pubs used to be closed on a sunday and you could only get a drink in a hotel if you bought a meal, and shops used to be closed on a Sunday and i remember my father telling me when he was a kid the swings in Knightswood swing park used to be padlocked .

I stay in Fintry next to the river Endrick and there are times when we go for weeks and weeks with out a spate and then we do get some rain and the river is running "just right" on a SUNDAY and we cant fish it, and its back down to low on Monday.

I also fish Loch Lomond and every other group of loch users have 7 day access to the loch Jetbikers Sailers ,Canoeist's, Water Skiers ,Windsurfers, Pleasure boaters Coarse anglers but we "Game anglers" who are the only group that have to pay to use the loch but we are restricted to when we can go out on it.
I would love to got out on the loch on a Friday evening and camp out to the Sunday and troll the whole Loch but this daft law stops me.

Iam spending more of my time on Lochs Awe, Arkaig and the like because i can fish it all weekend and "IF" we get a Salmon on a sunday we put it back.


cheers.....james

[Sloggi]

I like to believe that the "people" can sometimes effect change so let's hope this is not "here to stay", Steve. I also believe that there should be room for both views with fisheries responding likewise. Why shouldn't we have flexibility - one beat can offer Sunday fishing and another decides against it. What's wrong with that? Some rivers allow spinning; some don't. Some have ghillies; some don't.

I'm guessing that the original reason for no Sunday fishing was nothing to do with fishing but the view that Sunday was the day we worshipped God and this applied "across the board" to almost all jobs/vocations within the Estae or small community. The difference now is that it stands alone as other areas of life have, rightly or wrongly, moved on.

Stopping sea-trout fishing at midnight Saturday is really frustrating!

[elwyman]

sloggi said:

Stopping sea-trout fishing at midnight Saturday is really frustrating!

Must be, especially if the fish are just coming on the take, as is often the case on Welsh rivers!

[greenalert]

I agree with you Sloggi, it should be up to the individual beats to decide, I believe it does date back to the times when everyone on the estates were supposed to follow the Laird example of going to church or were frowned upon

[akflyrod]

a simple idea would be instead of all you anglers bursting to catch that sunday salmon, the one you were unable to catch all day saturday, is to have a free childrens/fathers day open only to kids under say 14 for the future of the fishery and father/daughter/son spending quality time learning what they could grow to love as much as you.

[ceilidh]

Whilst it might seem that the banning of salmon(&sea trout) fishing on Sundays in Scotland was banned for religious reasons, this was, perhaps surprisingly, not the case. It came about as a result of legislation in the 1920s/ 30s (about which I am sure John Gray will provide more accurate details) which also dealt with the lifting of nets each week in order to give migratory fish a better chance of reaching their spawning grounds. As such it was an early and foresighted conservation measure, even in those days of plenty.

The concept of a one day a week fishing moritorium makes even more sense these days, even with catch and release, though which day is obviously open to debate. On some rivers, where beats change at (usually)1pm, there is often an unwritten convention that the pools on that beat are 'rested' during the changeover until 2pm and this can also improve the chances of catching a fish, though I have considerable sympathy for those who have travelled long distances for one day's fishing and wish to fish every moment of their available time.

[sinkingtip]

I am all for the 'day of rest'. Whether or not the rule seems archaic and whether, or not, it derives from an historical ecclesiastical or political decision is neither here nor there. The main benefit of having the Sunday break is that it simply delineates one week from the next. By this I mean if the fishing has not been too great one week then "there's always next week - maybe it will be better"....just the psychology of the thing is worth it in my opinion - especially from the Ghillie's point of view. Apart from simply having a day off (and who could begrudge anyone that !!) it gives Ghillie's a day in which they can cut grass, tidy the hut, prepare for the following week (a luxury they would not have if you had seven day fishing), spend time with families....the list can go on but I know how Sloggi gets frustrated when I am in full flow and "ream churning" - face it, once the days get longer some Ghillie's may not see their families for days on end apart from last thing at night and usually when they are knackered !! It's the psychological thing of a 'new' week ahead that swings it for me if nothing else.