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Post by robmason on Mar 9, 2007 20:04:21 GMT
Thought I'd share a recent ebay experience with you. Last month I won a Marquis 3 reel for a reasonable price. Made a bit of a boob with the paypal transaction. It transpired my account was out of date or something and a full 2 weeks after hitting the pay button my bank rejected the payment. I emailed the seller apologetically, he did not respond, just started a dispute thread to get my money! Fare enough I thought, I got his address quickly and sent a cheque. Within the week the money was in his account. Week later no sign of reel. I email him asking if it has been sent. The reply: it will be sent March 23rd! (bear in mind this is about 2 weeks ago!) Why do I have to wait? "Its obvious( )" Presumably, and I can think of no other reason, he's pissed with me for messing up on the payment and is now getting even. I decided to start a dispute as I hadn't received my goods, but I don't think it will shake him. In all honesty I would rather wait the extra few weeks and get the reel than get my money back, and he has an otherwise pretty good feedback score, 95% over 150 transactions or thereabouts. Including some recent similar transactions. Any thoughts?
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Post by say on Mar 9, 2007 20:13:34 GMT
As you have his address, pay him a visit...!!!!
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Post by robmason on Mar 9, 2007 20:43:54 GMT
It's 100% in the last year, so I went on that. I've not received a satisfactory explaination for the delay, despite asking.
I could visit say but he's 300 miles away!
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Post by hornet on Mar 9, 2007 20:55:53 GMT
Send Scottyboy, he will get your reel and your cash Hornet
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Post by robmason on Mar 9, 2007 22:20:34 GMT
;D
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Post by Sloggi on Mar 9, 2007 23:37:26 GMT
1) After goods arrive, give him the worst feedback you can without having comments censored. People can read comments not only see the %. 2) If it's from a shop (not sure if it's a private seller) write a complaint to the boss as it's often the shop assistant who deals with these transactions. You may get a gift voucher 3) Make this forum aware of seller's detail - we can keep clear.
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Post by Bogyoch on Mar 10, 2007 8:11:53 GMT
Make sure he leaves feedback first, otherwise you may end up with some negative feedback yourself on the back of it.
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Post by wilbert on Mar 10, 2007 10:19:28 GMT
Hope it goes ok for you. Ebay customer services is shite to say the least, I had 100% feedback until someone who refused to pay for an item left a negative feedback, ebay customer support would not remove it or reply to my emails.
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Post by ceilidh on Mar 10, 2007 11:29:34 GMT
Wilbert, I had a similar experience. Seller's terms of business stated that he would accept paypal but only with a £5 surcharge. Since he had less than 100% positive feedback I agreed to pay this surcharge and asked for his paypal details so that I could make the payment. He replied that he no longer accepted paypal and demanded payment by cheque, including the £5 surcharge! When I refused this he left negative feedback, which Ebay refused to remove, nor would they agree to discipline the offender. Since I had less than twenty Ebay transactions this one negative feedback made a huge difference to my positive rating.
Having said that, all my other ebay transactions have been fine and the great majority of tackle dealers are prompt and helpful.
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Post by robmason on Mar 10, 2007 16:11:29 GMT
I'm pleased to report that sense has prevailed and the reel is on its way. I tend to agree with steve, he has every right to leave me with a negative feedback for being a very slow payer, likewise his aftersales service has been shocking. In his last message he said he wasn't worried about the feedback, because it wasn't 100% anyway, which backs up what Springer mentioned earlier.
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Post by kercock on Mar 11, 2007 17:40:50 GMT
"Won an item on e-bay from an american guy, for weeks I asked for the total cost,including p/p Six weeks after winning he contacted me and sent his apologies saying he had been away on holiday and had forgotten all about the item adding that if I had changed my mind,no problem. I decided to accept his offer and declined the item. No problem you may think...................WROOOOooong' He left seriously negative feedback,I appealed to e-bay etc. etc. Result........................Sweet FA.
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Post by salmoseeker on Mar 11, 2007 19:25:04 GMT
It makes the old fashioned shops sound not so bad; all that hassle to get a perceived bargain, sorry it sounds good but for me it's more trouble than it's worth. But yeh, whatever floats your boat; I understand some individuals make a career out of ebay.
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Post by para1 on Mar 11, 2007 18:56:22 GMT
There is a forum that found a certain item that was being advertised on ebay that didn't actually exist (don't want to say what it was ) . Some of the members decide to take the advertiser for a ride. To cut a long story short, between them they bid up to £10,000,000. Hope he didn't book a holiday ;D The thing is ebay didn't seem to take much notice. So how reliable is it? I do know people that deal quite successfuly on there.
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Post by kilravock on Mar 21, 2007 14:14:42 GMT
Hello there, new to the forum and thought I'd share my recent Ebay experience as a warning to you all.
A few weeks back there was a Hardy Cascapedia 4/0 reel came up. Limited edition of 500 , low serial number, mint condition etc, etc etc. Minimal research finds RRP. in states = $2200 , here it was sitting at 300 pounds.
To cut a long story short, despite having more reels than I need I was the leading bidder at 500 quid until just before close the serious collectors entered and the price raced to 750, more than I wanted to speculate.
Thought no more about it until a few days later I got a note from the seller saying the winner couldn't raise the cash for 2 weeks, so would I be interested in it at 500 pounds, thankfully he gave me a couple of days to think it over.
Should have been a no brainer but something didn't feel quite right.
Whilst mulling it over, a couple of hours later I got an urgent message from Ebay, saying the entire transaction was withdrawn, and that if I had paid through paypal I was okay but if I had done a deal privately I should contact my bank and the police.
Ebay would not go into any detail and all traces of the sale were immediately expunged, soviet style, from the site, I can only speculate as to the exact reasons and I suspect I was not the only angler wondering how they would convince their wife the family needed a new cascapedia.
I don't want to put anyone off Ebay, far from it, but this to me at least was a useful reminder that when it sounds too good to be true, it usually is, to be very wary of 2nd offers and most of all stay within the protection of Ebay.
Caveat emptor, as they used to say.
Steven
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Post by bg110960 on Mar 22, 2007 8:40:16 GMT
Hi all My experience on ebay with fishing equipment has been generally very positive. I bought a new Fishpond Wasatch vest from the US and a Fishpond Fly tying Coyote Bag (second hand) from UK. both transactions went very smoothly with positive feedback all round. All payments by paypal. Also I have made a number of complaints about dodgy auctions that I have come across and all have been dealt with effectively by Ebay.
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Post by tynetraveller on Mar 22, 2007 9:52:59 GMT
Hi Steven- I was the original winning bidder on the reel, but I already suspected it was a con due to the zero feedback seller and no payment descriptions- When the seller asked me to pay by moneygram I immediately reported him to ebay. I suspected there would also be a lot of second chance offers going out. Judging by the seller's English I suspect he was really based somewhere in Africa!
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Post by greenalert on Mar 23, 2007 20:19:03 GMT
I have had, I think 86 transactions on E-Bay & can honestly say have had no problems whatsoever
I think the secret is, always check the sellers amount of transactions & feedback,99.8% & over, there should not be a problem, dependent on amount of course
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Post by jan on Mar 23, 2007 21:16:36 GMT
despite my well known support of ebay, with over 700 positive transactions , its still surprising who gets caught out - a very well known ebay dealer in rods in USA was surprised when i told him that his latest listings had a spurious email address and buy it now link in the middle of them - he hadnt noticed - how the scammers put them into his listings is still a mystery - so keep an eye out for listings from well respected ebayers with feedback in the hundreds and 100% ratings with unexpected direct buy links in red in them - and an email address in the wrong country for the listing
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Post by kilravock on Mar 26, 2007 10:44:03 GMT
Hi Steven- I was the original winning bidder on the reel, but I already suspected it was a con due to the zero feedback seller and no payment descriptions- When the seller asked me to pay by moneygram I immediately reported him to ebay. I suspected there would also be a lot of second chance offers going out. Judging by the seller's English I suspect he was really based somewhere in Africa! thanks Tynetraveller, I guess your quick action, and follow through by reporting it potentially saved me 530 quid. For the past four years I was living in a country which no-one could or would ship to so I am a relative newbie to ebay. I haven't let this experience put me off though and am still a believer in the effectiveness of ebay and online purchasing in general. Of course online shopping highlights the premium we in the UK pay over our US cousins given price maintenance and currency differences. At the minute I am swithering over raiding the piggy bank and going for new waders, boots and wading jacket. RRP in the UK for Simms is iro GBP750 whereas I can get the lot in the US for GBP 500 ish if I don't get hit with taxes. Its almost got to the point where I could justify a flight just to pick up the gear (along with some impulse buys I am sure). Which leads me to a suggestion for the forum........ (Apologies in advance to the UK tackle dealers and if this subject has been covered before but)..... especially at the start of a seasons, prior to any big purchases, why don't some forum members get together , make a list and perhaps negotiate an additional discount with say Cabelas, and pay the airfare for somebody's teenager to go to the US , pick up the purchases and have a few days holiday at the same time. Even allowing for paying the airfare and tax on return there would still be a whopping saving. Worth pursuing ?
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Post by dangler on Mar 26, 2007 12:47:15 GMT
One small snag I can foresee is if stopped at Customs it might be difficult to persuade them that you took 17 pairs of waders in 5 different sizes out to America with you and therefore have nothing to declare! Sorry to be a killjoy but I believe there is a limit on the value of goods you can import.
Mike
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