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Post by charlieh on Jul 24, 2007 10:41:40 GMT
Do they add anything (apart from extra weight) to a tube fly?
Do you favour them in particular conditions, types of water etc?
Do I need to add some to my armoury, or are they snake oil, which will swell the profits of tackle shops more than the catch returns?
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Post by tynetraveller on Jul 24, 2007 11:32:01 GMT
They help make plastic tubes fish on a more even keel by balancing the hook. The tungsten beads allow you to tie on plastic tubes but still have a fly with a fast sink rate. They look cool. The turbo cones make the fly puff up in the water.
Nothing in salmon fishing is essential, but 90% of my big flies are plastic tube coneheads. They are part of the scandi fly tying style.
Cheers, Simon
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Post by williegunn on Jul 24, 2007 11:48:45 GMT
Charlie Total waste of time, if there is a taking fish he will take whatever you put in front of him.
Turbo cones are designed to make casting difficult.
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Post by DAZ on Jul 24, 2007 12:51:38 GMT
They help make plastic tubes fish on a more even keel by balancing the hook. Just to had a little to tynetraveller's post. I find they make all tubes (Alli,copper,brass etc!) swim on a more even keel when Incorporated.I use them very little myself though!. DAZ.
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Post by dangler on Jul 24, 2007 20:40:54 GMT
I agree with Daz. I do think it is important to differentiate between straightforward cones and turbo cones both in the way they fish and the way they cast Years ago when trying to devise a wriggling damselfly nymph I incorporated a bow shaped piece of plastic at the front of the fly. This was duly dragged up and down in the bath and exhibited a very impressive side to side wiggle. Full of confidence, Dad and I went to attack the trout with our wonderflies. The line twist created by mere air drag was incredible and sufficient to render the flies useless for anything other than slow trolling. The reason for this preamble is to endorse WG's pronouncement that turbo discs are most probably awful to Spey cast and maybe even worse to overhead. Ordinary cones are not especially difficult to cast with a change of timing and do assist in fishing the fly deeper and on an even keel.
Mike
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Post by rpsalmon on Aug 1, 2007 14:59:15 GMT
For goodness sake, these are lures. Add whatever shaped anythng you like to any lure, as along as it is legal, doesn't scare fish and catches fish just what is the problem. These coneheads and other new inventions aren't new at all. I've used coloured air pellets of various sizes and with a hole through the centre for years, the chap who showed them to me was taught by someone who'd used them since his father taught him in the 1950's. Does nobody remember coloured split shot that used to be added to whichever part of your cast that you required for the particular fishing method? Last year a chap looked at me as if I were mad when I told him of such things!
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