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Post by rpsalmon on Aug 15, 2007 15:00:34 GMT
It is only a few years ago that the owners of fishing on the North Tyne that I used to fish, stopped letting to week and day rods because not only was the fishing failing to reach any standard, it was hit and miss (more of the later!) and much of the fly water was only fit for the shrimp, but it was more profitable to let to clubs/syndicates. Having looked at the Tyne's Fish Counter Figures I do not see that there is a greater number of fish running the river.
I saw a remark about the Tyne suffering from the public, that is very true and while not suffering the worst from this, I can not see how all the Tyne beats could expect to take lots of money from lets and not expect their costs to go up in the form of ghillies and bailiffs. Or do they owners think the existing anglers wouldn't turn to poaching, having no where to fish, or fish the best lies early in the morning before the day's guests have arrived?
If they want to look at a recent example of a river going to hell, look at what happened on the Wye, remove the anglers for months on end and the poachers moved in to destroy the stocks of salmon that were supposed to be protected.
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Post by zephead on Aug 15, 2007 17:25:14 GMT
Your right TSS, I am only too "familiar" with the area since I am originally from over the hill on the banks of the Wear and have fished Tyne regularly for a number of years.My name is not against a back-end week at Bywell next autumn although I'm dipping in and out of two good Spring weeks. Having fished Chesters on Easter Sat this year (13th April ish I think) in dead low water and having fished in low water most late Aprils on Tyne it surprised me why the demand for late,as opposed to early,April at Bywell was so prized. Is it there is a demand for BBQ fishing in the Spring au Tyne or has there been a subtle later shift in the Spring run by a couple/ three weeks or is is possibly a feeling of less of a risk of being washed off from the Corporate punters? Maybe more possibly,there is a feeling of greater numbers of fish about as there is a head of residents developing albeit they will inevitably be going stale and not what I and many other anglers are actually there to catch. I'm sure those more attuned to the intricacies than I of the Spring run will indeed have a more informed view. ZH
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Post by al44 on Aug 15, 2007 18:27:47 GMT
Zep
The autumn weeks are probably more popular due to attractive returns from history and the much publicised 48 salmon caught one Saturday in 2004 (a day during which I was fortunate enough to catch four), which was, I have to say a complete one-off based upon my many years fishing that beat.
I have to agree with you that April is the best time for that beat. However if you're a visitor and you have one week's fishing holiday a year away from the smoke, would you want potentially one springer or five old crocodiles? I feel that they'll go for quantity over quality.
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Post by al44 on Aug 15, 2007 18:28:52 GMT
Bywell I'm on about, forgot to say.
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Post by zephead on Aug 15, 2007 23:50:59 GMT
Agree with you Al.
The Marvin Gay tells me Adamus Polaris has taken on Chipchase Castle at a stroke over a G a day per rod.
Presumably recruitment will come from the ranks of the Bywell lads so Chiphase can run it as a syndicate,get the catches up and then let it in 5 years time on a weekly basis,but maybe scepticism is getting the better of me...............................................................?
Regards
ZH
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Post by tyneflyfisha on Aug 16, 2007 10:33:41 GMT
F999 Sorry for late reply not been near a pc for a day or two
Were the fish salmon, or sea trout? both The bleeding scales, were these small red sores, mainly below the lateral line and mainly toward the anal vent? yes Where abouts on the river did you see them? corbridge area
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Post by billytheghillie on Aug 16, 2007 10:40:25 GMT
we are having same problem(red anal vents) on the tweed
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Post by f999 on Aug 16, 2007 12:11:04 GMT
A bleeding vent is only one of the symptoms of the Tyne problem. The little red sores which mainly appear toward the anal vent and mainly below the lateral line are the classic symptoms of the Tyne estuary problem, I have not seen many of these fish this year.
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