Moderating team

[williegunn]

Ah Bean Brain I see your spelling is up to its usual standard. The spelling is Gunn. I would expect a little respect other wise you will be ZAPPED

[beanieboy]

Respect? - you will just have to earn it old boy!

[salmoseeker]

springer said:

Read the threads 'Tips to Gillies' and 'Tay - Kercock' then by all means come back and have your say.

You might want to read what I had to say on the threads you highlight, I've said all I want to and wish you tightlines

[elwyman]

beanieboy said:

Respect? - you will just have to earn it old boy!

Turn the phasers to stun Scotty!

Aye Captain Kirk. ;D

[salmondan]

williegunn said:

My opinion of what a moderator job should be.
Ensure that all posts are suitable for viewing by everyone, ie remove all porn and inappropiate links.
Remove any posts that endanger the hosting of the site.
Stop any over heating of arguements at an early stage if at all possible.

If I miss any of the above please drop me a PM.

More simply an unpaid janitor.

Ok guys, shoot me down if I'm being out of order here but,

Now that we have a number of people who have the power to keep this forum on the straight and narrow, can we expect any action to be taken regarding the trouble of the past few days/weeks? I'm speaking specifically about the point WG made (quoted above) regarding removing posts. We all log on here for one common goal, to improve our enjoyment of this sport that we love, be that through giving or receiving advice, swapping flies, bulk purchases, arranging meetings and more ways than I can be bothered typing.
The following point I'm sure has been made elsewhere recently but I'll make it again so more people can see it. If the most well respected and established members of this forum decide that the time has come for them to move to pastures new, due to any reason but mainly the b*tching and abusive posting, what are we left with? We are left with a forum that offers us none of the aforementioned benefits. If I hadn't found this place, I probably wouldn't have taken up fly tying, I wouldn't have been able to make an informed decision on which fly line to buy, I would know none of the stuff that I have learned in the last 2 months. I shudder to think.

This place is great and for the sake of the few who seem hell bent on spoiling it for the rest of us, we need the moderators to be able to do their jobs. Colin, that includes the removal of people from the members list. If WG and GR are not authorised to do that then you must take heed of their advice and do it for them at the earliest opportunity.

Nobody minds a bit of good natured banter, we all do it at the end of every day on the river, in the hut, in the pub, in the car on the way home. Some people take some things the wrong way, some people put things in such a way that it is easily misunderstood. One of the things about these internet chatrooms is that you cannot convey a "tone of voice", even if you put a smiley in.

When these discussions get a bit heated, which WILL happen again at some point in the future, can we keep it to ourselves or point it out to a moderator who should then do his job and remove the offending post(s)?

With regard to the fishing writers thread and the kercock thread, why are the offensive and non relevant threads still on there? Remove the bullsh*t (and the bullsh*tters) and let's get back to what we all come here for.

This post is not intended as a dig or criticism of any one member of this site, all characters are purely fictitious and any reference to anyone, living or dead, is coincidental.

Once again, just my opinion.

[potbelly]

we need the moderators to be able to do their jobs. Colin, that includes the removal of people from the members list. If WG and GR are not authorised to do that then you must take heed of their advice and do it for them at the earliest opportunity.

I agree, if the administrator is not going to be logged in for a while for whatever reason then the moderators should be given full administrator rights.

[elwyman]

I agree with Salmondan, and I would guess that he speaks for the silent majority of forum members who have witnessed a dramatic change in the tone of posts over the last month or so.

I have seen this happen on other forums and the moderators usually step in fairly quickly and sort it out.

I'm sure the new moderators, WG & Graham, would welcome additional powers to deal with certain newcomers who are probably having a laugh at our expense.

Hopefully Colin will arrange this sooner rather than later!

[greenalert]

Totally agree with Salmondan

I have learned more in 2 months than I did in 2 years

[ceilidh]

Here Here, or should that be Hear Hear or even perhaps, Here,Here etc. ?

This is, usually, a most helpful, informative and amusing forum. However, human nature being what it is, good natured comments or criticisms can sometimes be misinterpreted or taken the wrong way, nor do we all share the same sense of humour! It is therefore entirely sensible that we accept a few, mutually acknowledged arbitrators to moderate threads which seem to be straying too far from the main purpose or ethos of this forum.

If we take exception to the thankless task that these moderators perform, or fail to perform, then it is important that there should be a dedicated thread where, and only where, members views about this can be freely expressed and grievances aired about the conduct of other members.

As Neddy Seagoon might have said " Aah, You naugthie man, I shall report you to the MODERATOR"

[elwyman]

Well done Graham.

I suggest any member who goes off thread again is sentenced to a month's salmon fishing on the River Conwy in April!

[salmondan]

graham said:

I have deleted all of the posts which strayed off topic on the 'Influence of salmon fishing writers' thread and unlocked it. Unfortunately I cannot do anything about the Kercock thread. Hopefully the forum can return to what it has been in the past, before the disruption of recent weeks.

Thanks Graham, fingers crossed that the forum can return to Salmon.

Those who do, please try to criticise with more diplomacy.

Those who do, please try to bite less enthusiastically. Let's leave that to the fish, eh?

Dan

[robmason]

Springer, you are certainly vociferous in your criticism of Colin, and given all that you have personally done for the forum I can see why. Personally, I'm quite happy with the way its chugging along, I just ignore anything written by idiots (moderator or not ).

If you feel that it can go further and get better then why not change it, or at least set up another one. Then you can take it in the direction YOU want. I expect that would be alot of work to do on your own, maybe you should start to PM some useful people

If you haven't already.

[elwyman]

admin said:

Hi Jim, Welcome aboard i hope you enjoy using the site .
Hopefully some of the guys from the flyforums will be able to moderate the fly fishing board on here as i know very little about Salmon Fly fishing.
Tight Lines

Colin posted the above when he first set up the site, so perhaps he needs to follow through quickly and give the new moderators more powers.

Rob - I'm never sure if you do it deliberately - perhaps you've had a hard day on the ward, but your suggestions to Springer don't seem very helpful at the present time.

[robmason]

I don't see why not. It doesn't look like Colin is going to make too many changes here on his own. He needs to either hand over to someone else, or if Springer feels that strongly about it he should set up his own board. That's what I would do if I felt that strongly about it.

PS. Ward? What ward! Checked my mail this morning then spent some quality time with the wife. On the banks of the river Dart.

[macd]

robmason said:

Springer, you are certainly vociferous in your criticism of Colin, and given all that you have personally done for the forum I can see why. Personally, I'm quite happy with the way its chugging along, I just ignore anything written by idiots (moderator or not ).

If you feel that it can go further and get better then why not change it, or at least set up another one. Then you can take it in the direction YOU want. I expect that would be alot of work to do on your own, maybe you should start to PM some useful people

If you haven't already.

Taking the piss again- a slave to your vocation.

Springer has done a lot for the guys on this forum .Your contribution is what?

Really, come on, let's hear it manny. Put up or shut up.

[elwyman]

robmason said:

I don't see why not. It doesn't look like Colin is going to make too many changes here on his own. He needs to either hand over to someone else, or if Springer feels that strongly about it he should set up his own board. That's what I would do if I felt that strongly about it.

PS. Ward? What ward! Checked my mail this morning then spent some quality time with the wife. On the banks of the river Dart.

I don't think we need two salmon forums - I wouldn't have the time to read both! Hopefully Colin will do the right thing.

Your wife must be very understanding, or she must have some very good thermal underwear. ;D

[robmason]

macd said:

robmason said:

Springer, you are certainly vociferous in your criticism of Colin, and given all that you have personally done for the forum I can see why. Personally, I'm quite happy with the way its chugging along, I just ignore anything written by idiots (moderator or not ).

If you feel that it can go further and get better then why not change it, or at least set up another one. Then you can take it in the direction YOU want. I expect that would be alot of work to do on your own, maybe you should start to PM some useful people

If you haven't already.

Taking the piss again- a slave to your vocation.

Springer has done a lot for the guys on this forum .Your contribution is what?

Really, come on, let's hear it manny. Put up or shut up.

I think that's uncalled for. Springer has asked for the "silent majority" to speak up on this subject. This is my tupence worth. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but it's my take on the matter.

My contribution? Well, I post and I read posts. I have already credited Springer for his contribution (line pool, fly swaps etc). I'm happy to admit that's not my cup of tea, and nor do I have the time to organise it. Hat's off to him.

[johnmac]

I've watched all the bickering and mud slinging with some amusement over the last week, but at the end of the day it is all very childish. Why can everyone not just try to get along?

Feel free to be honest but at the same time be polite! It is a Salmon Forum not Jerry Springer!

Okay, so not everyone can agree... but i've been a member for about 14 months and its only in the last two that people have started slinging insults. I'm not saying it's new people causing trouble, people are allowed differing opinions, just get on with it politely!

If anything.... prune the members list .... 500 odd members but only 50 odd that seem to post regularly?? ??

A lot of people bring a lot to this forum, please don't spoil it for others! I want to read about people out fishing, river reports and tackle talk.... not grown men arguing!

Peace out!

[elwyman]

johnmac said:

It is a Salmon Forum not Geordie Springer!

Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;D

[johnmac]

I'm not saying prune people who i or you dont agree with, i'm saying prune people who don't use the site..... a quick flick through the first ten pages of the members list shows that there are 87 people who have never posted since joiningthe forum, most have never visited this year or even since they day they registered... so delete them.

Keep the site fresh, its better to have 100 members who all contribute from time to time than 500 members of whom only 50 actually write something?