Salmon fishing,too expensive?

[salmonking]

After a bumper 2003,Tweed prices went through the roof,
i think fishing on the tweed is very pricey,especially looking at the catch returns.
If tweed have another poor/average year this and next,will
the 5 year average pull prices back in line?
That surely should be the case,will the owners take this on board?
i doubt it as we crazy fishermen keep coughing up the dough
whats your opinions out there are other river systems in line
or over priced?
I'm personally interested in the tweed,but comments on other
rivers are most welcome.

cheers col.

[madkeen]

I think the trend is up every year.I would say the Dee is one of the better value rivers.
Alan

[salmoseeker]

I come from the river brown trout stable where we fished for free, pre-protection order (great thing) and after that paid £2 rising to £5 for various Tay beats. Now a salmon addict, I pay more, but my £350 for two season tickets (ericht/isla) represents for me good value. Perhaps not prime water but I can fish lovely fly water with a realistic prospect of a fish - except perhaps this year As far as I'm concerned I'm happy with what I am getting for my money.

[williegunn]

madkeen said:

I think the trend is up every year.I would say the Dee is one of the better value rivers.
Alan

Well Park has had 1 fish this week, 33 rod days @ over £100 /day----- Crathes 2 fish this week, 12 rod days @ over £300/day.

Hardly wonderfull value for money.

[madkeen]

Malcolm it doesn't look too good when you put it like that.The Tay today 7 fish reported at least 38 beats at say avg. 4 rods, better chance at winning the lotto.

[Sloggi]

madkeen said:

I think the trend is up every year.I would say the Dee is one of the better value rivers.
Alan

I'd have to disagree with your comments on the Dee - so far this season. As WG describes, the catch results are absolutely miserable compared to the number of rods out there fishing and the cost per rod per fish this season must be pretty steep.

Up here, the local word is "the pools are full of fish - they're just not taking" - usual guff to keep bookings up. My advice would be: stay away unless you've unfortunately pre-booked - just not worth it. Hopefully it will change soon.

However, onto your general question. I fish a "back-end" beat (aren't they all ) which offers a half-season ticket (Jul-Sept) for £200 - excellent value. I feel value is to be found from August onwards. Spring fishing is outragously expensive.

[Deveron loon]

If you are not concerned about fishing a 'named' river like the Spey or the Dee, you cannot get better value than the Deveron in my humble opinion. A week in late summer and back end might get you a days fishing elsewhere. - just getting that back end week might be the problem.

[Sloggi]

rossco4000 said:

If you are not concerned about fishing a 'named' river like the Spey or the Dee, you cannot get better value than the Deveron in my humble opinion. A week in late summer and back end might get you a days fishing elsewhere. - just getting that back end week might be the problem.

Good shout

[madkeen]

Yes the Deveron is on my to do list ;D

[Deveron loon]

Going back to the original point, I see through the Fish Tweed website that a days fishing can cost up to £750. Now, I realise that the chances of having a 'red letter' day in October on the Tweed is good, but is a days salmon fishing really worth that - to me it is taking the piss. If you have a big dirty river that week or that day, it's a lot of cash for nothing.

[salmonking]

If folks are staying away because of prices this must surely have an effect on the Gillie's,IE no rods no tips,is this part of the problems with Gillie's/owners on how some beats are run?,if so I'm with the gillies...i certainly understand their grievance if this is the case.

[Sloggi]

rossco4000 said:

Going back to the original point, I see through the Fish Tweed website that a days fishing can cost up to £750. Now, I realise that the chances of having a 'red letter' day in October on the Tweed is good, but is a days salmon fishing really worth that - to me it is taking the piss. If you have a big dirty river that week or that day, it's a lot of cash for nothing.

Another good shout - you're on a hat-trick ;D

£750 a day Shockeroonie

[madkeen]

Salmonking I don't think anglers are staying away that is why the prices are rising year by year.People are willing to pay whatever they can afford for good fishing.Me personaly wouldn't pay more than £100 a day for salmon fishing.

[Deveron loon]

Easy Sloggi, putting the pressure on noo.

[salmonking]

madkeen said:

Salmonking I don't think anglers are staying away that is why the prices are rising year by year.People are willing to pay whatever they can afford for good fishing.Me personally wouldn't pay more than £100 a day for salmon fishing.

Madkeen ,you are a prime example,as i myself ,because we wont go over £100,we stay away,i would certainly be on the tweed more if prices were not as high,and i know lots of guys who wont pay even when prices seem relatively cheap,so it must have an effect to a certain extent.

[turrifftackle]

I will gladly take £100 a day off any of you who want to come and Fish the Deveron. In Fact I tell you what - I will do you a wee deal- £75 how is that.

Seriously - BEST BEAT AT PRIME TIME------- £385 per rod PER WEEK

Remember outside of the big four - we are next on the list and our 10 year average is 3000 salmon per year. No wild fluctuations but we do need a bit of water to get fish.
If you fancy a week check out the web site below.

We do have an image/price problem though. Many people do not think it is up to much as the prices are low. Many a time I have quoted a weekly figure and the punter would have been happy to pay that per day.

Frank

[castlikeaghille]

williegunn said:

madkeen said:

I think the trend is up every year.I would say the Dee is one of the better value rivers.
Alan

Well Park has had 1 fish this week, 33 rod days @ over £100 /day----- Craithes 2 fish this week, 12 rod days @ over £300/day.

Hardly wonderfull value for money.

WG

'Craithes' really? Could that be 'Crathes' without the extra 'i' representing the 'irrelevance' of picking other people up on their typos when your ship is not in shape. Hardly wonderful with the extra 'l' is it

There's many a grammatical slip twixt keyboard and script

Pot, Kettle, Black

CLaG

[madkeen]

Salmonking there is the likes of us who won't pay what we believe to be over the odds but there is always those how have it and are prepared to pay it.Have a look at how much rods are available on the Tweed at prime time I think that tells the whole story.

[salmonking]

madkeen said:

Salmonking there is the likes of us who won't pay what we believe to be over the odds but there is always those how have it and are prepared to pay it.Have a look at how much rods are available on the Tweed at prime time I think that tells the whole story.

Good point.

[williegunn]

castlikeaghille said:

WG

'Craithes' really? Could that be 'Crathes' without the extra 'i' representing the 'irrelevance' of picking other people up on their typos when your ship is not in shape. Hardly wonderful with the extra 'l' is it

There's many a grammatical slip twixt keyboard and script

Pot, Kettle, Black

CLaG

Your write the spell chequer has been fired.