Club Waters

[robbie]

A contentious subject. What is expensive? If someone thinks £150 for a season ticket on a reasonable water is expensive, yet go's to the pub every night or smokes, are they right??. A personal choice I know , but a subjective one. Concessionary tickets for the young,retired or disabled would soften the blow and are often available already. I suppose it all boils down to how much is fishing worth to YOU.

p.s. Like most of you, I want my cake and eat it. inexpensive fishing on empty, fish filled beats!!

[fishingd0]

salmonking said:

Now Mr Neptune,do you really want that CURSE lifted?

Quite the opposite,upping the £ ,would get rid of not only some of the bandit fishmonger visitors,,,but some of the skinflint mongers that think they are salmon fishers,,HARSH BUT TRUE.

You may find it the opposite. The "bandit fishmongers" will more than likely be selling their fish and have no probs catching a few for the ticket.

[rpsalmon]

Price isn't the way to go because in this day and age there are scoundrels who earn large amounts of money, some of the worst people I know are bankers and other "professional type" individuals. I know of a trout fishery where the manager soon found out that the people who try to sneak extra fish into the back of their vehicles are the people with expensive vehicles, the people with ordinary vehicles were the honest ones! The only way is to have good strong but fair management, my view of fair is priority to local anglers but with a proportion of tickets for others.

[salmonking]

fishingd0 said:

salmonking said:

Now Mr Neptune,do you really want that CURSE lifted?

Quite the opposite,upping the £ ,would get rid of not only some of the bandit fishmonger visitors,,,but some of the skinflint mongers that think they are salmon fishers,,HARSH BUT TRUE.

You may find it the opposite. The "bandit fishmongers" will more than likely be selling their fish and have no probs catching a few for the ticket.

You are correct fdo,,some of these bandits ARE selling the fish they catch,i know one desperado who if he catches a fish,chaps it ,into the boot of the car and off downstream,in hope of catching another,but i know from talking to certain individuals
that if the £ went up they would not fish this club water,and i don't think the club would lose out,,as proper salmon fishers will pay a bit extra.

I forgot to mention,,,1 fish per angler.

[salmonking]

robbie said:

A contentious subject. What is expensive? If someone thinks £150 for a season ticket on a reasonable water is expensive, yet go's to the pub every night or smokes, are they right??. A personal choice I know , but a subjective one. Concessionary tickets for the young,retired or disabled would soften the blow and are often available already. I suppose it all boils down to how much is fishing worth to YOU.

p.s. Like most of you, I want my cake and eat it. inexpensive fishing on empty, fish filled beats!!

Well said Robbie,,my fishing means a lot to me,,and ill pay for it
May i add i fish a private beat where very few are given permission to fish,,WHY,, because the owners know i take my salmon fishing very seriously,and pro c&r,,,if i did not have these views I'm almost 100% sure i wouldn't be on this beat,PAYS OFF IN THE LONG RUN

[tweedsider]

Now your talking robbie

robbie said:

A contentious subject. What is expensive? If someone thinks £150 for a season ticket on a reasonable water is expensive, yet go's to the pub every night or smokes, are they right??. A personal choice I know , but a subjective one. Concessionary tickets for the young,retired or disabled would soften the blow and are often available already. I suppose it all boils down to how much is fishing worth to YOU.

p.s. Like most of you, I want my cake and eat it. inexpensive fishing on empty, fish filled beats!!

[tweedsider]

nEPTUNE SEE THE OTHER THREAD UP ON A STEP BETWEEN EACH CAST.

neptune said:

£50 is cheap for the season but if the price was put too high
less locals would be fishing & it would just become a haven for visitors as they would pay over the odds to fish on a river where only the "WELL OFF" fish
i have seen people fishing the same beat & not moving even if other anglers arrive maybe a time limit on pools with a minium time resting period should be enforced so if you turn up & some one tells you the pool is resting you should abide & not just have people just going up & down till all the fish hide or even stipulate times when the pools cannot be fished

[salmonking]

yOU WanT To sTAY OFF gIN ;D

[tweedsider]

salmonking said:

yOU WanT To sTAY OFF gIN ;D

[tweedsider]

Is there something wrong with your keyboard?

salmonking said:

yOU WanT To sTAY OFF gIN ;D

[neptune]

sk i agree with yopur theory but as others have stated if some one is selling their catch they wont mind what price a permit costs
im going for the future hear i can see web cams placed at "hot spots" not only to catch unscrupulous anglers but to promote the area oh & yes please i would like the curse lifted i even asked your missus if you kept your rod was in the car last week so i could return the curse ( please say thanks to her for holding on to the keys i misplaced)

[neptune]

ive just read what i typed....no my keyboard isnt playing up my missus is working till 11 so im having a few "cheap" beers"
its my eyesight thats wrong

[salmonking]

tHEM BEERS MUST BE g :oD,It iS my KEybbARd he is on about

[neptune]

i thought that but i saw my spelling & thought i better explain i hope the curse is lifted as i finish 2.30 all next week so ill be on river till 7 (might even stay in 1 place if nobody else going about )
i had a nice 1.5lb brown trout last tues couldnt take pic cos phone broke. fish curse must be lifted but its on every thing else now

[salmonking]

neptune said:

sk i agree with yopur theory but as others have stated if some one is selling their catch they wont mind what price a permit costs
im going for the future hear i can see web cams placed at "hot spots" not only to catch unscrupulous anglers but to promote the area oh & yes please i would like the curse lifted i even asked your missus if you kept your rod was in the car last week so i could return the curse ( please say thanks to her for holding on to the keys i misplaced)

WRONG ,,,there would be less profit for the b@$7@60$
and they don't catch that many anyway,apart from one guy,THE REST JUST GET IN THE WAY,AS THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE BASICS OF SALMON FISHING. rant over

anyway im a sociable animal im off out for a pint

[neptune]

this will allways be a difficult topic to agree on i think the best solution is an agm with every permit holder to give their opinion then a decision could be made
i suggest a 2hr meeting then DRINK (all rules must be finalised before drink)

[tweedsider]

Neptune there is fanny adams wrong with your keyboard it is Sk who is all over thwe place accusing others of tippling at the gin bottle while 5 or 6 sheets to the wind himself

neptune said:

ive just read what i typed....no my keyboard isnt playing up my missus is working till 11 so im having a few "cheap" beers"
its my eyesight thats wrong

[ibm59]

rpsalmon said:

I quite accept local anglers can be a problem but with a threat of expulsion they should be easier to manage.

Just exactly what are you suggesting here ?
Sounds like an us and them situation which never solves anything.

[neptune]

ts. i knew that its my alcohol intake i was explaining as i looked at what what i had typed beforehand it looked as though i had a french keyboard, anyway im going to log off before the drink takes over (these days its 6 cans) & enjoy the peacefull part of kids going to bed before the wife comes home... not as peacefull as standing in the river just easier to fall asleep

[rpsalmon]

Dear IBM59

I wasn't suggesting anything. I wrote what I meant, and that was if anglers know they will lose their access to fishing if their behavior falls below a certain standard, then they are less likely to let their behavior fall below the acceptable standard. No "us and them" situation.