River Annan

[salmondan]

macsalmo said:

the only trouble is on the river levels this morning it showed the tribs coming up .

I missed that Gary, sorry mate .

Tight lines if you decide to take a chance.

Dan

Edit, Just looked at the river levels, it's not looking too bad now Gary, your trip might be on after all . If it stays like this, I'm off back next week ;D.

[salmonscotty16lb]

today I'm off work and nice day feeling the need to get fishing.
i did fancy a afternoon on hoddem but through the computer it looks impossible for a short notice trip for few hours
hope this is not the start of a trend for the annan.
still going to go up walk the murton beat of the tay then a couple of hours on the almond.

[salmondan]

salmonscotty16lb said:

today I'm off work and nice day feeling the need to get fishing.
i did fancy a afternoon on hoddem but through the computer it looks impossible for a short notice trip for few hours
hope this is not the start of a trend for the annan.
still going to go up walk the murton beat of the tay then a couple of hours on the almond.

You could try the association water (applegarth/upper beat) with a day permit from Red House hotel at Wamphrey although I'm not sure whether there'd be any springers that far up yet.

[macsalmo]

Thanks Dan, I'm going, the river has dropped like a stone , it should be perfect height for me at Newbie tomorrow .

Gary

[macsalmo]

Thanks Mike, it will be just nice to get back out there .

Gary

[salmondan]

macsalmo said:

Thanks Dan, I'm going, the river has dropped like a stone , it should be perfect height for me at Newbie tomorrow .

Gary

Hope you and springer have a good time. Tight lines, let us know how you get on.

I'm off up to Applegarth on wednesday to try a cast or two for some of those "broon troot" (nice one Mike ;D) that the Annan is famous for.

[salmondan]

ibrox said:

Good luck Dan , some big broon troots up applegarth .

I had some 3lb-4lb, ers last year .

tight lines ma man

Mike

Muchos gracias amigo

[donnieW]

I'm planning a few days on the Annan in November. Never fished it before and keen to catch a November fish. (I'm on a mission!!) Where would you recommend? Should I try different beats or a few days on the same one?

[scotty]

salmondan, when does the broon troot season start on the annan?

scotty.

[salmondan]

15th March . Until 6th October. That is the brown trout season.

I'm not sure about the broon troot season ;D.

Next Wednesday is the 7th March !

Wish I'd checked that before I made plans to go. Thanks guys, I wouldn't have given it a second thought if you'd not pointed it out, illegal fishing is not the best start to the season is it.

Saying that, we are in the second year of the compulsory C+R of brownies on UAAA waters so no fish could have been taken anyway, legally or not.

Grayling fishing it is then .

Or perhaps one of the lesser known jet powered spring salmon that run 9 miles in a day to rest for the remainder of the season in my favourite pool only to take the piss every time I fish it .

My apologies in advance to Gary and Alan for my being too trusting in the BBC's weather service. It appears that the river rose 2 feet last night. Sorry lads.

One would think that after all these years forecasting weather, the met office would be able to get it nearly right most of the time. Idiots the lot of them .

Dan

[macsalmo]

No problem Dan, my mate Russell phoned me this morning and told me to go back to bed .

To make things worse, I ended up working all day .

There's alway's next time

Gary

Ps: Russell told me your spey casting has come on leaps and bounds .

[salmondan]

At least you didn't drive all the way to find out .

And at least working all day pays better than fishing all day, financially anyway.

Give me a shout next time you're thinking of going up to the Annan, especially Newbie, it's the best beat I've fished on the river. I'm looking forward to booking some sea trout fishing and hopefully a couple of days at the back end of the season.

Dan.

[elwyman]

salmondan said:

At least you didn't drive all the way to find out .

I did!

I decided to fish Hoddom - booked it last night (£8 +vat!) but arrived to find the river had risen 18" and was fairly coloured- visibility about 18".

I gave it a couple of hours because I wanted to try out my new 15' Norway - as Graham has said in another thread, it handles very fast sink tips (Rio No 8) and 1.5" copper tubes easily.

Most interesting part of the day was when two "crown bailiffs" and a PC turned up. The bailiffs looked more like special force ops with camoflaged anti-stab vests and handcuffs etc!

Fortunately I had my permit with me! They were just showing the PC the beat, and we had a pleasant chat - one of the even had a cast with my rod.

Do "crown bailiffs" work for SEPA?

[dunbar]

elwyman said:

salmondan said:

At least you didn't drive all the way to find out .

I did!

I decided to fish Hoddom - booked it last night (£8 +vat!) but arrived to find the river had risen 18" and was fairly coloured- visibility about 18".

I gave it a couple of hours because I wanted to try out my new 15' Norway - as Graham has said in another thread, it handles very fast sink tips (Rio No 8) and 1.5" copper tubes easily.

Most interesting part of the day was when two "crown bailiffs" and a PC turned up. The bailiffs looked more like special force ops with camoflaged anti-stab vests and handcuffs etc!

Fortunately I had my permit with me! They were just showing the PC the beat, and we had a pleasant chat - one of the even had a cast with my rod.

Do "crown bailiffs" work for SEPA?

There's actually no such thing as a Crown Bailiff - the only authorities allowed to appoint bailiffs in Scotland are either the local district salmon fishery board, or where there is no board, the Scottish Executive. Most are appointed by local fishery boards. Bailiffs should always introduce themselves and show their warrant card for inspection when making enquiries.

SEPA have no powers in relation to fishing. (although they regulate all sorts of riverworks and fishery enhancement works under a new EU Directive).

[elwyman]

I googled this Dunbar:

Operation Salmo
A successful initiative by Strathclyde police to tackle sea trout and salmon poaching is being rolled out in Scotland.

Forces across the country will team up with Crown Bailiffs to conduct "Operation Salmo" crackdowns on the waterways around the country.

The project will launch again locally in August. Members of the Strathclyde Police Marine Unit along with the Bailiffs and Wildlife Liaison Officers will scour the Clyde Estuary and its tributaries. This will involve a Rigid Inflatable Boat manned with the officers from the participating agencies.

Joe Connelly, Wildlife Liaison Officer Co-ordinator at Strathclyde Police said: "We know that poaching is still occurring, especially in the month of August when many salmon and sea trout are taken illegally as they return to their spawning rivers. The fish are then sold illegally to hotels and restaurants."

James Delaney Bailiffing Co-odinator at River Clyde Fisheries Management Trust Ltd said : "Illegal netting and fishing accounts for large numbers of salmon and sea trout adults being removed from the catchment. These fish were destined to ascend the River Clyde or many of her tributaries to spawn, thereby ensuring the survival of the species. We must do all that we can to protect the Atlantic Salmon and sea trout in a bid to reverse the alarming downward spiral in their numbers."

[macsalmo]

salmondan said:

At least you didn't drive all the way to find out .

And at least working all day pays better than fishing all day, financially anyway.

Give me a shout next time you're thinking of going up to the Annan, especially Newbie, it's the best beat I've fished on the river. I'm looking forward to booking some sea trout fishing and hopefully a couple of days at the back end of the season.

Dan.

No problem Dan, I've booked a few days on Cleughead for this season, fished it a couple of times last season, good fly water.
Russell at Newbie leaves for sunnier climates on Tuesday so it will be a new Gillie at Newbie soon. Watch this space .

I'll probably be up next around the end of April/May.
Will give you a shout.

Gary

Ps; I was working at home so no financial advantage (just brownie points ).

[macsalmo]

Good point Alan, I must get back into credit .

Doh,


Gary

[salmondan]

donniewhiteford said:

I'm planning a few days on the Annan in November. Never fished it before and keen to catch a November fish. (I'm on a mission!!) Where would you recommend? Should I try different beats or a few days on the same one?

If you keep an eye on the fishannan website or contact Andy D1ckson, there will be a small number of "rover" tickets available shortly. These give you 6 days fishing, each on a different beat, to help you get a "feel" for the river (his words). I've thought about this myself but would rather get the odd day here and there in case of bad weather, all my eggs in one basket therefore being avoided.

It's an option you may not have known about.

I personally would book a couple of days each on any of the bottom beats, Hoddom, Cleughhead, Newbie etc. Or 3 days Annan, then 3 days Nith.

Confused yet ?

Dan

[dunbar]

elwyman said:

I googled this Dunbar:

Operation Salmo
A successful initiative by Strathclyde police to tackle sea trout and salmon poaching is being rolled out in Scotland.

Forces across the country will team up with Crown Bailiffs to conduct "Operation Salmo" crackdowns on the waterways around the country.

The project will launch again locally in August. Members of the Strathclyde Police Marine Unit along with the Bailiffs and Wildlife Liaison Officers will scour the Clyde Estuary and its tributaries. This will involve a Rigid Inflatable Boat manned with the officers from the participating agencies.

Joe Connelly, Wildlife Liaison Officer Co-ordinator at Strathclyde Police said: "We know that poaching is still occurring, especially in the month of August when many salmon and sea trout are taken illegally as they return to their spawning rivers. The fish are then sold illegally to hotels and restaurants."

James Delaney Bailiffing Co-odinator at River Clyde Fisheries Management Trust Ltd said : "Illegal netting and fishing accounts for large numbers of salmon and sea trout adults being removed from the catchment. These fish were destined to ascend the River Clyde or many of her tributaries to spawn, thereby ensuring the survival of the species. We must do all that we can to protect the Atlantic Salmon and sea trout in a bid to reverse the alarming downward spiral in their numbers."

Yes, I've heard about operation salmo - it is being rolled out across Scotland in conjunction with other rivers.

At the risk of sounding pedantic (i'm not really!), the term 'Crown Bailiff' is a misnomer and is used by some guys on the Clyde and elsewhere to describe the bailiffs who are appointed by the Scottish Executive (nothing to do with the Crown Estate). They are appointed by the Scottish Executive because there is no fishery board for the Clyde.

Sorry to be a bore.

[salmonscotty16lb]

operation salmo?? watch out 9nro ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D