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Post by williegunn on Apr 19, 2007 19:45:50 GMT
8.45 and still light enough to read a book, tonight
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elwyman
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Post by elwyman on Apr 20, 2007 20:00:01 GMT
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Post by madkeen on Apr 22, 2007 9:19:54 GMT
Having a long weekend in Aviemore in May can I still get access to the Grantown association water?
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Post by robmason on Apr 22, 2007 18:56:07 GMT
I believe that Aviemore is outwith the necessary area in which one must be domicilled. But then, will they definitely ask?
After all the swooning and sighing, I spent the week in the area and fished the Findhorn instead!
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Post by Sloggi on Apr 22, 2007 19:10:23 GMT
It's a question that can't be answered, but would these fish have been caught on fly? One could easily suggest it doesn't matter. I'm wondering if the neighbouring beats are doing well and if they're fly only? On the Dee a lot of fish are being seen that "won't look at a fly" - how would they react to the spinning angler making his way down the pool? Bring back the spinning option (go on, tie me up with braid and lash me with Rapalas ;D) I'm not too concerned about the spinner caught fish but I am concerned about the worming. Last year I found myself stuck at the head of the Dulnain Mouth pool in very low water conditions with fly rod in hand unable to get through the pool as the opposite bank had three wormers "camped" on the bank - they were sitting in deck-chairs
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Post by castlikeaghille on Apr 22, 2007 19:53:31 GMT
It's a question that can't be answered, but would these fish have been caught on fly? One could easily suggest it doesn't matter. I'm wondering if the neighbouring beats are doing well and if they're fly only? On the Dee a lot of fish are being seen that "won't look at a fly" - how would they react to the spinning angler making his way down the pool? Bring back the spinning option (go on, tie me up with braid and lash me with Rapalas ;D) I'm not too concerned about the spinner caught fish but I am concerned about the worming. Last year I found myself stuck at the head of the Dulnain Mouth pool in very low water conditions with fly rod in hand unable to get through the pool as the opposite bank had three wormers "camped" on the bank - they were sitting in deck-chairs I agree with this. When limits on fish caught and killed required a natural hurdle then the obvious thing to do was to restrict fishing method to the, then, least efficient method - i.e. fly. However, two things have changed: 1) The concept of catch and release (with a limited cull) has almost universal acceptance in most places - obviously with the exception of the Strath of Killeverything c.f earlier reports 2) Much more subjective, modern equipment and methods mean fly fishermen are probably more adept generally than even 10 years ago - however there are times when even the most adept fly fuishier will be gubbed by the bait fuishier. The key is 1. If people are being charged a King's ransom to catch a salmon (and I'm sorry, but you can wax lyrical all day long about I'm spending £100 - 1000 a day to look at the scenery when the law now allows anyone to do that for free - it doesn't wash) why limit the ability to catch them if they are to be returned anyway? Regards CLaG
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Post by elwyman on Apr 22, 2007 20:25:27 GMT
I made the comment more out of surprise that so many fish were being caught on spinner in April, in lowish water conditions, on good fly water like the Lurg.
I must admit that rapalas are a pet hate of mine, 2 or 3 treble hooks doesn't seem right to me if people are contemplating C&R.
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Post by Sloggi on Apr 22, 2007 21:22:03 GMT
Agreed CLaG Re: Rapalas As I've stated elsewhere, one barbless hook only on my rapalas - three trebles is way OTT
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Post by JJ on Apr 25, 2007 16:17:02 GMT
IME, you will definately be asked where you are staying when you buy the ticket so be prepared!
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Post by fishtail on Apr 26, 2007 8:10:28 GMT
I too was surprised to see that fish were being caught on spinner on the Upper Castle Grant beats as I remembered the rules state spinning only when the water is at 1'-9" or above. However, there is a rule that allows spinning up to the end of April. Pools like Bridge are only suitable for the spinner anyway.
JJ is right, you will be asked where you are staying!
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Post by tayboy on Apr 29, 2007 11:50:57 GMT
a was at grantown this week hope 2 fish abernethy soon what tackle would be appropriate athought spinning rod and either 10 ft trout rod or 13 foot double hander for fly is the acess good
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Post by tayboy on Apr 29, 2007 11:52:04 GMT
wanting 2 travel light looks well spaced out pools
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Post by jt on May 1, 2007 6:31:15 GMT
A quick concern ahead of our trip up next week...
Given the weather and lack of decent rain of late is it likely that snowmelt will maintain the levels and encourage fish in or are we likely to find residents and few fresh fish?
Oooh yes - and are scottish midges about or not?
Can't wait!
Thanks, Jon
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Post by williegunn on May 1, 2007 8:18:23 GMT
A quick concern ahead of our trip up next week... Given the weather and lack of decent rain of late is it likely that snowmelt will maintain the levels and encourage fish in or are we likely to find residents and few fresh fish? Thanks, Jon Possibly there is still some snow in the high corries but expect low water the sun is still baking speyside.
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Post by juniorspey on May 1, 2007 22:03:23 GMT
The midge is starting to arrive!!! playing footie in the park the last couple of nights weve been 'driven mental' at times...but not as bad as normal!!!! throughout april we saw loads of fish at grantown, but they were reluctant to take, they seemed to be putting their heads down and running. there have been reports of fish being caught on the spey at newtonmore, and on the feshie, suggesting that this may have been the case!!! sea trout are starting to be caught too. worryingly, there was an orfe, and a rainbow trout caught at grantown recently. blair
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Post by jt on May 2, 2007 19:05:51 GMT
So, low water to be expected...floaters and smallish flies (unless the water temp is low still I presume?). Might the high tides/full moon have helped our cause for next Monday? ... You'll note the slightly desperate edge to my prose May think more about sea trout then - trebles replaced by doubles aside are there any differences to my Welsh/English set up to consider fly-wise? Was thinking large singles, black/silver snakes and black/silver ali tubes...other than that use my small salmon double patterns. Thanks all for your help so far Jon
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Post by Sloggi on May 2, 2007 21:29:14 GMT
Floater, intermediate tip, Collie Dog or similar combined with WG's casting style...wang it out etc.
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Post by Yorkshire Esk on May 7, 2007 17:53:49 GMT
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Post by williegunn on May 7, 2007 22:37:53 GMT
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Post by juniorspey on May 10, 2007 21:00:40 GMT
Things are looking good for the next week!!! went out today and lost 1 and landed a nice 8lber with a few sea lice! malcom, for monday you should 'fork out' for some garden flies!!!! ;D there are now good numers of fish evedent.
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